SSNL POKER [cheese] thread JULY PT 2

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ATF Thread

[zaephyr]

Misplayed?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $283.80
Hero (BB): $246.75
UTG: $236.09
MP: $207.25
CO: $255.00
BTN: $504.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $7.00</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $25.00</font>, BTN calls $18.00

Flop: ($51) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($51) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $35.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $70.00</font>, Hero calls $35.00

River: ($191) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $151.75</font>, BTN calls $151.75

Pot Size: $494.50 ($3 Rake)

BTN had Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Queens full of Jacks) and WON (+$244.75)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Jacks) and LOST (-$246.75)

[Imrahil]

Look at me get pwned by a fish. He had gone broke with TPNK and is generally passive. Thin value bet gone very bad,

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $83.65
Hero (BB): $240.00
UTG: $122.15
MP: $131.30
CO: $98.50
BTN: $110.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
4 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $4.00</font>, Hero calls $3.00

Flop: ($8) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $6.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18.00</font>, SB calls $12.00

Turn: ($44) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($44) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $17.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $61.65</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $122.65 ($3 Rake)
Oh he had 94o.

[dirtylobster]

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I figured out the diffence between 100NL and 200NL. At 200NL the donks win a $400 pot when they hit their 2-3 outs.

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QFT

[Imrahil]

This doesn't deserve its own thread but can I actually fold river here?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $49.05
<u>Hero (BB): $115.55</u>
UTG: $110.00
MP: $34.65
<u>CO: $52.40</u>
BTN: $106.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, MP folds, CO calls $1.00, BTN folds, SB calls $0.50, Hero checks

Flop: ($4) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, UTG folds, CO calls $3.00, SB folds

Turn: ($10) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $7.00</font>, CO calls $7.00

River: ($24) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $17.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises all-in to $41.40</font>, Hero calls $24.40

Pot Size: $106.80 ($3 Rake)

CO had J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Jacks) and WON (+$51.40)
Hero had T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$52.40)

[dirtylobster]

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This doesn't deserve its own thread but can I actually fold river here?

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I guess you could but I wouldn't. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[nuggetz87]

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Misplayed?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $283.80
Hero (BB): $246.75
UTG: $236.09
MP: $207.25
CO: $255.00
BTN: $504.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $7.00</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $25.00</font>, BTN calls $18.00

Flop: ($51) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($51) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $35.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $70.00</font>, Hero calls $35.00

River: ($191) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $151.75</font>, BTN calls $151.75

Pot Size: $494.50 ($3 Rake)

BTN had Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Queens full of Jacks) and WON (+$244.75)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Jacks) and LOST (-$246.75)

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you can't be stacking off with trips top kicker in a reraised pot, just too weak of a hand.

[tubasteve]

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This doesn't deserve its own thread but can I actually fold river here?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $49.05
<u>Hero (BB): $115.55</u>
UTG: $110.00
MP: $34.65
<u>CO: $52.40</u>
BTN: $106.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, MP folds, CO calls $1.00, BTN folds, SB calls $0.50, Hero checks

Flop: ($4) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, UTG folds, CO calls $3.00, SB folds

Turn: ($10) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $7.00</font>, CO calls $7.00

River: ($24) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $17.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises all-in to $41.40</font>, Hero calls $24.40

Pot Size: $106.80 ($3 Rake)

CO had J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Jacks) and WON (+$51.40)
Hero had T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$52.40)

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is that a serious question getting 3.5-1 on the river vs a half stack lol

[Imrahil]

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This doesn't deserve its own thread but can I actually fold river here?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $49.05
<u>Hero (BB): $115.55</u>
UTG: $110.00
MP: $34.65
<u>CO: $52.40</u>
BTN: $106.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, MP folds, CO calls $1.00, BTN folds, SB calls $0.50, Hero checks

Flop: ($4) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, UTG folds, CO calls $3.00, SB folds

Turn: ($10) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $7.00</font>, CO calls $7.00

River: ($24) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $17.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises all-in to $41.40</font>, Hero calls $24.40

Pot Size: $106.80 ($3 Rake)

CO had J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Jacks) and WON (+$51.40)
Hero had T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$52.40)

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is that a serious question getting 3.5-1 on the river vs a half stack lol

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Meh I guess not lol.

[nuggetz87]

hand vs. some shortstacking bag who i'm sure everyone from stars 100 knows who he is.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Jonny_Moxon (SB): $21.15
Hero (BB): $147.40
UTG: $176.20
CO: $88.50
BTN: $214.55

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Jonny_Moxon raises all-in to $21.15</font>, Hero calls $20.15

Flop: ($42.30) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Turn: ($42.30) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($42.30) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $42.30 ($2 Rake)

Jonny_Moxon had K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Fives) and LOST (-$21.15)
Hero had T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Tens and Fives) and WON (+$19.15)


so after the hand since i hate shortstacks this is a summary of the chat:

me: lol worst shortstacker ever
him: you have no idea do you, stick to your own game
me: K5s for 20bb that's probably profitable
him: K5s shove is profitable vs. any calling range you could have

someone call me out here if i'm wrong but for some reason i don't think K5s for 20bb is unexploitable.