** Official August Chat Thread: The White Swan **

[Kos13]

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Are we still doin bet til they fold this month lol

PokerStars Game #11334049387: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/08/05 - 23:55:03 (ET)
Table 'Errai IV' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Mugsy1977 ($58.35 in chips)
Seat 2: titababy999 ($49.85 in chips)
Seat 4: jc8888 ($95.50 in chips)
Seat 5: ON EMPTY ($108.50 in chips)
Seat 6: jlkmlk ($100 in chips)
Seat 7: billzfan86 ($170.05 in chips)
Seat 8: freddyjones ($37.80 in chips)
Seat 9: scorpionfish ($111.50 in chips)
ON EMPTY: posts small blind $0.50
jlkmlk: posts big blind $1
shat4brains3: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to billzfan86 [Kd Qd]
billzfan86: raises $3 to $4
freddyjones: folds
scorpionfish: calls $4
Mugsy1977: folds
titababy999: folds
jc8888: folds
ON EMPTY: folds
jlkmlk: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [As 2h Jc]
jlkmlk: checks
billzfan86: bets $8.50
scorpionfish: calls $8.50
jlkmlk: folds
*** TURN *** [As 2h Jc] [9s]
billzfan86: bets $23
scorpionfish: calls $23
*** RIVER *** [As 2h Jc 9s] [9c]
billzfan86: bets $76
scorpionfish said, "22"
scorpionfish said, "you have JJ"
scorpionfish: folds
billzfan86 collected $72.50 from pot
billzfan86: shows [Kd Qd] (a pair of Nines)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $75.50 | Rake $3
Board [As 2h Jc 9s 9c]
Seat 1: Mugsy1977 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: titababy999 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: jc8888 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ON EMPTY (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: jlkmlk (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: billzfan86 collected ($72.50)
Seat 8: freddyjones folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: scorpionfish folded on the River

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Villain = pro

[BeatPurdue]

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Make that 22 buy-ins.

I am really not sure when or how I am going to get out of this.

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Beat; sorry for the beat I put on you. Stealing situation I think so that brought my odds from marginal to +EV, esp with good stacks and implied etc.

Anyways, I started off 200 at a 17bi downswing. With an aggressive style you will have that. Maybe you should slow it down some until the tides swing? I did, I cut back to like 13/8 or so and just tried to play a bit more conservative. Mainly because when I was 17bi down I was thinking to much in my head about not wanting to lose so I wasn't making good cbets in good spots or double barreling when I should, etc, for fear of losing more.

Of course if you have a 200bi bankroll(which you might very well have) then it might not be a big deal and this advice could be useless

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Thanks for the post, Prod. You may very well be right.

Also, I don't have close to that amount in my roll. I go with 50 buy-ins. Mainly because I don't like keeping anymore than that online. I may need to re-think that because I am running as bad as I ever have in my life right now.

[SABR42]

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Villain = Jennifer Tilly

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[too eazy]

purdue. calling 5 bet shoves with 99 is probably part of the problem. (even if it is blind on blind)


not meant to be disrespectful/negative, 100% serious.

[BeatPurdue]

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purdue. calling 5 bet shoves with 99 is probably part of the problem. (even if it is blind on blind)


not meant to be disrespectful/negative, 100% serious.

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I don't disagree. I need a kick in the ass because I am playing like absolute crap and running like crap.

That hand was a perfect example of what tilt will do to you.

I gotta get my stuff together.

[too eazy]

i'm fairly confident and unhappy that you will in fact get it together and recover quite well.

[Mr_Donktastic]

GL getting it back beatpurdue.

Maybe take a little time off and then come back swinging?

Is it 22 BIs at 400 or 200?

[TheProdigy]

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Make that 22 buy-ins.

I am really not sure when or how I am going to get out of this.

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Beat; sorry for the beat I put on you. Stealing situation I think so that brought my odds from marginal to +EV, esp with good stacks and implied etc.

Anyways, I started off 200 at a 17bi downswing. With an aggressive style you will have that. Maybe you should slow it down some until the tides swing? I did, I cut back to like 13/8 or so and just tried to play a bit more conservative. Mainly because when I was 17bi down I was thinking to much in my head about not wanting to lose so I wasn't making good cbets in good spots or double barreling when I should, etc, for fear of losing more.

Of course if you have a 200bi bankroll(which you might very well have) then it might not be a big deal and this advice could be useless

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Thanks for the post, Prod. You may very well be right.

Also, I don't have close to that amount in my roll. I go with 50 buy-ins. Mainly because I don't like keeping anymore than that online. I may need to re-think that because I am running as bad as I ever have in my life right now.

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I just know you are very good but didn't know if you cashed out much etc.

The line between 17/11 good and 17/11 very spewy is very thin. too eazy is right about me sucking at poker, so maybe he is right about you spewing. Toning it down might indeed be a good option for a couple days or until it turns around.

[the_main]

I find the biggest help when I'm downswinging is to stop trying to play big pots. Not that I avoid them, but I stop trying to force them.

[BeatPurdue]

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GL getting it back beatpurdue.

Maybe take a little time off and then come back swinging?

Is it 22 BIs at 400 or 200?

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200. My biggest one ever was 17 about 5 months ago.

There is no way I can blame it all on variance either.