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#491
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
It's in the letter they sent her.
" Your Full Tilt Poker account will remain permanently closed and the remaining funds will be used to reimburse the victims of your use of automated artificial intelligence software. You are no longer welcome to play at Full Tilt Poker. Regards, Jeremy E Security and Fraud Full Tilt Poker " |
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
Morning all,
I just wanted to clarify that those of us who are unhappy with FTP's handling of this matter obviously support their efforts to crack down on cheating. Cheating obviously hurts us all, and we obviously think it should be stopped. However, at the same time, we think that even <u>accused</u> cheaters deserve a right to defend themselves against the allegations. If our society lets murderers see the evidence against them (despite the possible theoretical advantage to other would-be murderers from seeing how they were caught) then surely the same can apply to online poker players. As the case of TeddyFBI's mum demonstrated, online poker operators are not infallible. They make mistakes - and $47k makes a big difference to Sillysal's life, so let's remember that. P.S. Gehrig suggests, in the BBV thread on this, that the evidence against Sillysal is pretty damning. That may be the case - but it wouldn't change my view one bit. It's not possible to only have a fair process for innocent people, since someone's guilt needs to determined as a result of the fair process, not prior to. On that note, if Gehrig - as a mere dataminer/observer - was able to figure out the evidence (as he suggests) then surely there is no secret issue involved here. |
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
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On that note, if Gehrig - as a mere dataminer/observer - was able to figure out the evidence (as he suggests) then surely there is no secret issue involved here. [/ QUOTE ] i didnt elaborate on what i know and i'm not going to |
#494
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
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i didnt elaborate on what i know and i'm not going to [/ QUOTE ] Why? |
#495
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
I don't think he will elaborate on why he won't elaborate.
I also don't think he will elaborate on why he won't elaborate about why he won't elaborate. |
#496
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
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I don't think he will elaborate on why he won't elaborate. I also don't think he will elaborate on why he won't elaborate about why he won't elaborate. [/ QUOTE ] If Gehrig won't elaborate because of an arrangement with FTP, then he only needs to say that. |
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
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I don't think he will elaborate on why he won't elaborate. I also don't think he will elaborate on why he won't elaborate about why he won't elaborate. [/ QUOTE ] Nth level elaboration. ELABROLEVELED!!!!!! |
#498
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
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If Gehrig won't elaborate because of an arrangement with FTP, then he only needs to say that. [/ QUOTE ] More than likely it's b/c Crazy Mike gave him information under the condition it stay private. |
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
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[ QUOTE ] Uh Silly Sal. hello Silly Sal. Send us some evidence please. Should be on your computer. [/ QUOTE ] I will post hand histories , I will contact the Kahnawake Gaming Commision. I have contacted 2 Lawyers, and I have made calls to involve the media. I have contacted the 4 moderators that were on staff at the time I received the letter from FTP. I will do everything in my power and I will post everything I do to keep you all in the loop. [/ QUOTE ] No HH yet. Could you take a minute to explain why? |
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Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it
Here is an extract from the information FTP sent me. (FTP and sillysal have given me permission to post it.)
FTP consider it to be very important to their case against sillysal: Pokergirl z 172,075 hands Flop 59% Turn 43% River 36% grego777 85,403 hands Flop 60% Turn 44% River 36% Daurgman 62,148 hands Flop 61% Turn 45% River 36% * Pokergirl z Pre-flop % Fold 20 Call 21 Check 3 Bet 55 grego777 Pre-flop % Fold 21 Call 22 Check 3 Bet 54 Daurgman Pre-flop % Fold 21 Call 22 Check 2 Bet 55 * Pokergirl z Flop % Fold 8 Call 27 Check 20 Bet 45 grego777 Flop % Fold 8 Call 27 Check 20 Bet 45 Daurgman Flop % Fold 7 Call 24 Check 22 Bet 47 * Pokergirl z Turn % Fold 7 Call 27 Check 38 Bet 28 grego777 Turn % Fold 7 Call 26 Check 38 Bet 29 Daurgman Turn % Fold 8 Call 25 Check 30 Bet 37 * Pokergirl z River % Fold 11 Call 24 Check 32 Bet 33 grego777 River % Fold 11 Call 23 Check 31 Bet 34 Daurgman River % Fold 8 Call 26 Check 31 Bet 34 * Pokergirl z Pre-flop played % 65 grego777 Pre-flop played % 66 Daurgman Pre-flop played % 68 * Pokergirl z Went to S/D & won % 48 grego777 Went to S/D & won % 47 Daurgman Went to S/D & won % 47 * Pokergirl z Pre-flop aggression 2.6/4.0 grego777 Pre-flop aggression 2.5/4.0 Daurgman Pre-flop aggression 2.5/4.0 * Pokergirl z Post-flop aggression 1.4/4.0 grego777 Post-flop aggression 1.5/4.0 Daurgman Post-flop aggression 1.6/4.0 |
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