Moderator "Dids" out of control in WPT forum

[mason55]

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do you want a six month moratorium on hellmuth posts?

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If I ever ventured into that cesspool I'm sure my answer would be: "No. How about 12?"

[Kneel B4 Zod]

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it's just plain nonsense to pretend to have a thread where everybody involve lacks the information to discuss it with any intelligence.

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dude thats the whole WPT forum

[Russ M.]

"Does YOUR forum have an out of control moderator, and you want to confront them? Call 1-800-MAURY and tell us your story!"

[ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S]

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It's not about subjective opinions, it's about the fact that it's just plain nonsense to pretend to have a thread where everybody involve lacks the information to discuss it with any intelligence.

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I don't post in or often read the WPT forum. But it is clear that the above quote is arrogant and presumptive. Congrats, you made that guy's case for him.

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Ok.

The point is this:

Nobody on this site has enough information to answer the question "who is the greatest tournament player of all time". It's a question to which the only meaningful answer is "we don't know". The thread I locked basically had about 9 responses saying "we don't know" before I locked it.

I think one of the huge flaws that we consistantly see in discourse is that people refuse to just accept that there isn't an answer to a given question. Rather that just accept that, people have these flailing, pointless arguments that in the long run are of no benefit to anybody involves.

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this is pretty bad.....

[KneeCo]

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The point is this:

Nobody on this site has enough information to answer the question "who is the greatest tournament player of all time". It's a question to which the only meaningful answer is "we don't know". The thread I locked basically had about 9 responses saying "we don't know" before I locked it.

I think one of the huge flaws that we consistently see in discourse is that people refuse to just accept that there isn't an answer to a given question. Rather that just accept that, people have these flailing, pointless arguments that in the long run are of no benefit to anybody involves.

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By this logic, people should stop posting hands on 2p2, because in 99% of cases we can't have enough information and the only "meaningful answer" is "it depends". The point of the discussion isn't getting to a single "right answer", it's being enlightened/entertained/infuriated/spurred to answer/... by the rationale individuals use to backup their own suggestion(s).

Oh, and Dids is truly horrible at being a mod and really should be removed ASAP.

[William]

Maybe posters should make an "intervention".
Everybody creating a silly poll. That would keep the busy.. hehe [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

But apparently great job in supressing the "freedom of speach" and not allowing opinions, only facts!

[prana]

Even in cases where something has been discussed before. Should a new member who wants to discuss something have to go read an out of date discussion instead of posting a topic and discussing it with people willing to discuss it again?
Seems wrong to lock their thread just because it's been posted before.

[Dids]

"Should a new member who wants to discuss something have to go read an out of date discussion instead of posting a topic and discussing it with people willing to discuss it again? "

Here's the thing.

A new member will learn more, and read a better discussion from going back and searching for an older thread than by getting everybody's "we've been over this before" responses in a new thread.

This is SOP on virtually every well run forum on the internet.

[GrannyMae]

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It's not about subjective opinions, it's about the fact that it's just plain nonsense to pretend to have a thread where everybody involve lacks the information to discuss it with any intelligence.

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I don't post in or often read the WPT forum. But it is clear that the above quote is arrogant and presumptive. Congrats, you made that guy's case for him.

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Ok.

The point is this:

Nobody on this site has enough information to answer the question "who is the greatest tournament player of all time". It's a question to which the only meaningful answer is "we don't know". The thread I locked basically had about 9 responses saying "we don't know" before I locked it.

I think one of the huge flaws that we consistantly see in discourse is that people refuse to just accept that there isn't an answer to a given question. Rather that just accept that, people have these flailing, pointless arguments that in the long run are of no benefit to anybody involves.

As a moderator, I view my goal as not just to maintain the forum, but to attempt to improve it. When I took this position, I made it clear to Mat and Dynasty that I would be being more proactive and trying to guide the discussion more agressively. A big part of that is shutting down threads that just bring nothing to the table. (and/or threads that have been done over and over again- see "Phil Hellmuth is annoying/we should raise the WSOP buyin).

Another point, directed at the OP. If you wish to be taken seriously, address these issues like an adult, and don't try and project motives onto people that you couldn't possibly understand. Nobody mods a forum here out of some lust for "power". I'm 29 years old, I have a job where I supervise people, I don't come on the internet just get my rocks off flexing my e-muscles towards people I don't know. The reason I'm a mod is because I value 2p2 as a community and would like to see it improve. Yes, that means I'm going to be pretty aggressive in how I moderate my forums, but it's because there's a lot of work that needs to be done to "fix" WPT and NVG.

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FWIW, I think all your responses in this thread pretty much validate the OP's point.

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[Nut4Dawgs]

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A new member will learn more, and read a better discussion from going back and searching for an older thread than by getting everybody's "we've been over this before" responses in a new thread.

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I've noticed how "old" subjects frequently get discussed by folks who either weren't around or didn't notice, the first time posted. Sometimes folks who posted before, develop a new or revised opinion/idea. It's also possible the best responses weren't expressed before.

Threads usually die on their own, from lack of attention/interest. Sort of like "survival of the fittest" in the Internet Jungle. Let Ma Nature do her thing.