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Old 11-17-2007, 01:21 PM
THAY3R THAY3R is offline
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Pujols vs Howard was at worst a toss up? From a pure stats point of view Howard was better in many categories.


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No, it wasn't very close at all.
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Old 11-17-2007, 02:21 PM
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Pujols was better in every offensive stat, was a much better defender and his team made the playoffs, the only edge Howard had was 70 more PAs.
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Old 11-17-2007, 08:14 PM
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Pujols was better in every offensive stat, was a much better defender and his team made the playoffs, the only edge Howard had was 70 more PAs.

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Um, so? The Phillies won more games. Pujols gets extra MVP credit because he plays in a crappier division?
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Old 11-17-2007, 08:31 PM
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The whole playoff thing is pretty dumb imo. Makes it a team award.
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:24 AM
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Pujols was better in every offensive stat, was a much better defender and his team made the playoffs, the only edge Howard had was 70 more PAs.

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Huh? Howard had more homeruns and more RBIs which is 2/3's of the triple crown. Pujols batting average was better but by less of a margin than Howard's homeruns/RBIs. And who is to say that if Pujols played as many games as Howard, that his average wouldn't have suffered? (Why did

And defense? How many MVPs have gone to ppl for great defense? That's what the Gold Glove is for.
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:25 AM
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:33 AM
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Pujols was better in every offensive stat, was a much better defender and his team made the playoffs, the only edge Howard had was 70 more PAs.

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Um, so? The Phillies won more games. Pujols gets extra MVP credit because he plays in a crappier division?

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Hasn't stopped MVP voters in the past.
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:36 AM
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Pujols was better in every offensive stat, was a much better defender and his team made the playoffs, the only edge Howard had was 70 more PAs.

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Huh? Howard had more homeruns and more RBIs which is 2/3's of the triple crown. Pujols batting average was better but by less of a margin than Howard's homeruns/RBIs. And who is to say that if Pujols played as many games as Howard, that his average wouldn't have suffered? (Why did

And defense? How many MVPs have gone to ppl for great defense? That's what the Gold Glove is for.

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Old 11-18-2007, 01:56 AM
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Holliday should win it, unfortunately Rollins probably will despite being #2 MVP on his own team.

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If Tulo couldn't beat Rollins for a Gold Glove, there's no way Holliday beats Rollins for MVP. Tulo's superiority over Rollins in the defensive department was a more clear cut argument than what you can make re the MVP.

Typical east coast voter bias.

Hell, if Rollins were a Met, we wouldn't even be having this discussion -- the MVP vote would be unanimous, even if the Mets still choked their way out of making the playoffs.
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:59 AM
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Pujols was better in every offensive stat, was a much better defender and his team made the playoffs, the only edge Howard had was 70 more PAs.

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Um, so? The Phillies won more games. Pujols gets extra MVP credit because he plays in a crappier division?

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Hasn't stopped MVP voters in the past.

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No, but as long as the Hawk is an MVP winner, there's always hope.
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