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Old 10-25-2007, 09:47 AM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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My thinking was bet flop over pair + AKd will 3bet

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There's no logic to what you're saying.

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I believe leading the flop is best. I am not a big fan of trying to get value from hands I can't get much value from anyway, unless I get lucky.

If he decides to c.bet with AK anyway after you lead (which I do sometimes against aggro people, since I certainly see it coming from pp's from time to time) you can just call and hope for an A or K, where you will stack him.

Not leading here may be otherwise nice, but if it is only to get value from AK/AQ, then imo it is wrong. However, if you think your chances to stack AA/QQ is best when you do this, it is certainly possible.

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There's no logic to what you're saying.
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Old 10-25-2007, 10:24 AM
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Okay well i CRAI'd and he called with AK
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Old 10-25-2007, 10:35 AM
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hyacahchac donking the flop is terrible here, reading the responses was tilt inducing
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Old 10-25-2007, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: Yes?

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My thinking was bet flop over pair + AKd will 3bet

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There's no logic to what you're saying.

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I believe leading the flop is best. I am not a big fan of trying to get value from hands I can't get much value from anyway, unless I get lucky.

If he decides to c.bet with AK anyway after you lead (which I do sometimes against aggro people, since I certainly see it coming from pp's from time to time) you can just call and hope for an A or K, where you will stack him.

Not leading here may be otherwise nice, but if it is only to get value from AK/AQ, then imo it is wrong. However, if you think your chances to stack AA/QQ is best when you do this, it is certainly possible.

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There's no logic to what you're saying.

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My pet can assert without proof.
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Old 10-25-2007, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: Yes?

Fairly sure after the A comes on the turn you're getting all AK's money no matter how you play it unless you c/c the river not all in.
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Old 10-25-2007, 11:03 AM
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I would bet $15 on the flop.

I do this because I want to get all of my money in once I see the flop. CO likely has AA, KK, QQ, AK, AQs and will call this bet or possibly raise it with the overpair. Checking gives free card to AK, AQ.

Once I've bet $15 on the flop, I would bet $15 again on the turn (looks like a blocking bet to AK, AQ). Checking, looking to get it all in on a c/r is also a possibility - but KK, QQ will check behind...

Given a flop check-check, I would bet the turn always, because I don't want to give a free card to QQ, KK.
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Old 10-25-2007, 11:24 AM
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i actually think this is wp.
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Old 10-25-2007, 11:24 AM
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Okay well i CRAI'd and he called with AK

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Old 10-25-2007, 11:24 AM
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hyacahchac donking the flop is terrible here, reading the responses was tilt inducing

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Old 10-25-2007, 11:28 AM
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Default Re: Yes?

why would you donk flop in a 3bet pot. let him Cbet for gods sake.

i suppose the aformentioned line is better than this line.

bet the turn, or the river. bet somewhere!!! this is horrible
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