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10-23-2007, 03:16 PM
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Re: Why is Paul Running as a Republican?
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We get it already. You want him to disappear. It's not going to happen. [/ QUOTE ] care to wager if Ron Paul wins the primary? 
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#42
10-23-2007, 03:17 PM
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Re: Why is Paul Running as a Republican?
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[ QUOTE ] We get it already. You want him to disappear. It's not going to happen. [/ QUOTE ] care to wager if Ron Paul wins the primary? [/ QUOTE ] Which one?
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#43
10-23-2007, 03:17 PM
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Re: Why is Paul Running as a Republican?
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#44
10-23-2007, 03:22 PM
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Re: Why is Paul Running as a Republican?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] We get it already. You want him to disappear. It's not going to happen. [/ QUOTE ] care to wager if Ron Paul wins the primary? [/ QUOTE ] Which one? [/ QUOTE ] Republican Nomination
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#45
10-23-2007, 03:26 PM
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Re: Why is Paul Running as a Republican?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] We get it already. You want him to disappear. It's not going to happen. [/ QUOTE ] care to wager if Ron Paul wins the primary? [/ QUOTE ] Which one? [/ QUOTE ] Republican Nomination [/ QUOTE ] That's not a primary.
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#46
10-23-2007, 03:29 PM
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Re: Why is Paul Running as a Republican?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] We get it already. You want him to disappear. It's not going to happen. [/ QUOTE ] care to wager if Ron Paul wins the primary? [/ QUOTE ] Which one? [/ QUOTE ] Republican Nomination [/ QUOTE ] That's not a primary. [/ QUOTE ] Do you think he's going to win any of the primaries? (Serious question --- not trying to bait or anything)
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#47
10-23-2007, 03:34 PM
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Re: Why is Paul Running as a Republican?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] We get it already. You want him to disappear. It's not going to happen. [/ QUOTE ] care to wager if Ron Paul wins the primary? [/ QUOTE ] Which one? [/ QUOTE ] Republican Nomination [/ QUOTE ] That's not a primary. [/ QUOTE ] Do you think he's going to win any of the primaries? (Serious question --- not trying to bait or anything) [/ QUOTE ] His best chance to win one is probably NH, which is very handy for the hopes of his campaign since it's first. In fact, I'd say NH being first is one of the biggest things that give him any kind of chance. After that, Alaska, Nevada, the Dakotas, Wyoming and others of the more "rugged" states are strong possibilities. Of course, most of these state have low population and don't matter much.
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#48
10-23-2007, 03:37 PM
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Re: Why is Paul Running as a Republican?
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[ QUOTE ] So you've accepted the idea that integrity, principle, and logically consistent views have no place in a party that stands a chance of winning? [/ QUOTE ] To some extent, yes. [/ QUOTE ] What does this say about what you're supporting? Aren't integrity, principle, and logical consistency good things? [ QUOTE ] I think that there are idealists in both parties who fit those parties. I don't think Paul's particular ideology fits either party, however. That's all well and good for most candidates because most candidates don't represent themselves as idealogues. They recognize practical realities/difficulties. [/ QUOTE ] They recognize nothing more than Joe Voter's shortsightedness, and realize they can get a lot of money and power by compromising the truth when it's convenient to their arguments. Since I've never seen Dr. Paul do this, I don't see how it's any sort of knock against him that the people he chose to run against are all sensational and corrupt. Like I said, I consider it a knock against the nature of politics in general that people would actually ask what place Paul's position has in the mainstream process. "Oh look at this great system we have here. Very humane. Ya, I admit that someone with principle and integrity has no part in it. He should just stay out of the way and let other people bend the truth for our short-term comfort." If only actions did not have very real consequences, then maybe I'd play along too. [ QUOTE ] Paul comes across (as do his supporters) as a different breed entirely. Things are much more black and white. In most everything that I've seen and read about Paul see he is very much an ideologue (an ideologue whose particular ideology doesn't fit his party.) There is an inherent contradiction there. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, his positions flow logically from certain stated premises. What an enigma. If he is willing to make the effort to work within the system and put those views out there, why should he not do it in whichever way he sees as best for his cause? You talk is if there is some rule that says no one is allowed to seek the nomination of a certain political party if you are not exactly in line with the game of politics and how that party is presently perceived. The status quo turns you on I guess. RP and his supporters are more concerned with rational truths, and not too worried about confusing the puppets who are conditioned to think there are exactly 2 answers to every problem.
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#49
10-23-2007, 03:53 PM
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Re: Why is Paul Running as a Republican?
It is worth noting that he is a constitutionalist, not a libraterian. Any powers that are granted to the federal government under the consitution, like border secruity, he often has a non-libraterian opinion on.
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#50
10-23-2007, 03:59 PM
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Re: Why is Paul Running as a Republican?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] We get it already. You want him to disappear. It's not going to happen. [/ QUOTE ] care to wager if Ron Paul wins the primary? [/ QUOTE ] Which one? [/ QUOTE ] Republican Nomination [/ QUOTE ] That's not a primary. [/ QUOTE ] Do you think he's going to win any of the primaries? (Serious question --- not trying to bait or anything) [/ QUOTE ] Probably not the early ones. But he also doesn't need to, believe it or not. A Republican I spoke with this past weekend (who is by no means a Paul supporter), pointed out that Dr. Paul could lose all the early primaries but still come out gold if he placed strongly in them (second or third) and there was no consistent first place winner. That keeps the prize up for grabs, and Dr. Paul in an ever brightening spotlight. This is an unlikely scenario, but crazier things have happened in politics. And if he does pull out an upset and take New Hampshire, all bets are off.
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