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Old 09-22-2007, 03:44 PM
Fonkey123 Fonkey123 is offline
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How about stars just makes the time before you can buy in for 20bb again about 3 hours.

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There's usually enough tables running where that wouldn't make a difference.
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:00 PM
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Increase the min buyin to 30 BB. By far the best compromise and takes away the pf all in play.
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:13 PM
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Increase the min buyin to 30 BB. By far the best compromise and takes away the pf all in play.

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wow, why the [censored] did no one think of this before?
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:15 PM
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the best fullstacked players have a marginal edge over each other in the scheme of things and play the highest volume of hands. stars wants them to stay
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:25 PM
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the best fullstacked players have a marginal edge over each other in the scheme of things and play the highest volume of hands. stars wants them to stay

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Actually I think stars knows that the culling the best players at each level would be best for the game.
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:26 PM
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All this [censored] about stars losing tons of rake if shortstacking was eliminated is simply incorrect. Shortstackers PAY a lot of rake but they don't GENERATE a lot of rake. In general, shortstackers don't start games or keep them going, they join games that are already running and quit if they get short. Remove shortstacking and roughly the same number of games will run, IMO.
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:27 PM
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Increase the min buyin to 30 BB. By far the best compromise and takes away the pf all in play.

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Until the ss loses just a few bb.
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:30 PM
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the best fullstacked players have a marginal edge over each other in the scheme of things and play the highest volume of hands. stars wants them to stay

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They are taking a ton of money out of the game too.
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:55 PM
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Increase the min buyin to 30 BB. By far the best compromise and takes away the pf all in play.

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Until the ss loses just a few bb.

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it'd hurt their bottomline a fair bit
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:59 PM
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All this [censored] about stars losing tons of rake if shortstacking was eliminated is simply incorrect. Shortstackers PAY a lot of rake but they don't GENERATE a lot of rake. In general, shortstackers don't start games or keep them going, they join games that are already running and quit if they get short. Remove shortstacking and roughly the same number of games will run, IMO.

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shortstackers keep the games running longer. the fish lose their money slower.

all that stuff about starting games and keeping short games going is pretty much irrelevant when compared with the fact that shortstackers reduce the good players' edges and make the fish less -ev.

and at all but maybe the highest stakes, having shortstackers fill seats will cause more games to get started.
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