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Old 09-19-2007, 09:01 PM
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Default Re: Poker After Dark thread (Week of 9/17 - Poker At Its Best)

Have you ever read a hand posted the full ring forum?
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:21 PM
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Default Re: Poker After Dark thread (Week of 9/17 - Poker At Its Best)

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gus is my hero for his rant after the KQ-K9 hand, and to those who claim they'd even have consider folding the K9 you're kinda pathetic [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Gus was pretty hilarious, "That may be the worst call I've ever seen."
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:31 PM
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Have you ever read a hand posted the full ring forum?

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No, but feel free to show me a hand that was posted of a shorthanded winner-takes-all tournament where someone folds a raise on the river with kings full, and not on a board of like AAKK5.

Please, I'd really love to see this. Like I said before, there is absolutely no one who would fold to a raise of that amount on that board with that hand. I CHALLENGE you to find a hand where it's happened. I'm begging you.
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:52 PM
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If Tuan Le had the information that all of the people watching at home had; that Howard was playing ridiculously tight and never bluffed up to that point (excluding minor BvB situations), it would have been a trivially easy fold. Of course since he doesn't have that info it's an obvious call since shoving would be totally gross. Lederer's range in that spot when he raises the river is KQ,KJ (thought I think he may actually make a smaller raise with KJ) or a bluff. He is never ever raising with 99, Q9, J9 or any straight.
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:13 PM
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Default Re: Poker After Dark thread (Week of 9/17 - Poker At Its Best)

with tuan's image, he can't fold there. if it was david grey, he might be able to. it takes a lot more of a hand to raise a david grey river bet than a tuan le river bet. plus david grey will fold anything.
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: Poker After Dark thread (Week of 9/17 - Poker At Its Best)

Not to mention Tuan had been donking a lot of flops and folding to any pressure. The only time he's held a big hand (QQ vs. Gus), he just flat-called on every street trapping Hansen until the river where he value bet. And he didn't show down.

And all he'd done in this hand was probe-bet the flop, check the turn, and bet the river.
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:31 PM
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it takes a lot more of a hand to raise a david grey river bet than a tuan le river bet.

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plus david grey will fold anything.

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Dont your arguments counter each other??
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Old 09-19-2007, 11:38 PM
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Was Tuan talking about playing Antoine Walker one on one? I didn't hear his name, but pieced it together after Howard said it would be Toine on Tuan and that the Toine in question was 6'9". Anyone know?
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Old 09-20-2007, 12:48 AM
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it takes a lot more of a hand to raise a david grey river bet than a tuan le river bet.

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plus david grey will fold anything.

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Dont your arguments counter each other??

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such is the duality of poker psychology
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Old 09-20-2007, 03:38 AM
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Default Re: Poker After Dark thread (Week of 9/17 - Poker At Its Best)

do you think gus would've called if he didn't see the ace on that AA vs A8 hand? did he assume that since daniel didn't care what card was flipped that they were the same card, thus aces? that was a fun hand
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