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Re: NL100: 300bb+ stacks, flop quads, fold?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] i hate your turn raise, just make it pot [/ QUOTE ] Care to explain? Yes, it is very easy to get all the money in by the river. What hands aside from J's and K's are going to call ANY raise on this turn anyways though? I dunno, i can't really think of a good reason. Seems like the best reason (which makes perfect sense) is that you can get it all in on the river regardless. Thoughts? [/ QUOTE ] um because if he has K you get all his monay no matter whta you do, and so your objective then becomes to valuebet AA and Jx, which fold to your monster raise a very high %age of the time. [/ QUOTE ] The other player can't have Jx here, all 4 Jack's are accounted for. |
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Re: NL100: 300bb+ stacks, flop quads, fold?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] i hate your turn raise, just make it pot [/ QUOTE ] Care to explain? Yes, it is very easy to get all the money in by the river. What hands aside from J's and K's are going to call ANY raise on this turn anyways though? I dunno, i can't really think of a good reason. Seems like the best reason (which makes perfect sense) is that you can get it all in on the river regardless. Thoughts? [/ QUOTE ] um because if he has K you get all his monay no matter whta you do, and so your objective then becomes to valuebet AA and Jx, which fold to your monster raise a very high %age of the time. [/ QUOTE ] The other player can't have Jx here, all 4 Jack's are accounted for. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think anyone decent is calling 100BB without a K. Q or A on river might also scare a K into thinking someone made a better full house. A shove on turn looks slightly more like a bluff than luring them into a shove on river. Perhaps most importantly, no one is going to fold a K on the turn to any bet. While the reasons to shove might seem relatively insignificant, I don't see any good reason to raise less. Only other possible line would be to just call if you think he will fire another barrel on river It really doesn't matter that much though, we are only making money from an idiot anyway you look at it. |
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Re: NL100: 300bb+ stacks, flop quads, fold?
FWIW, I think that if you were villian and you check turn with Kx (x lower than a J) and a good hero open shoves then it wouldn't be a leak to fold a king.
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