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Old 07-16-2007, 06:44 PM
prophet73 prophet73 is offline
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Default Re: Lee Watkinson + FT Qualifier + Winner = $18,250,000

I'm totally guessing, but I've got to think that to be on "Team Full Tilt" you need to own some sort of piece of the company as an investor. I think to be a FTP "Pro" is more like an endorsement/prop player thing for the site.

That's why a player like Carlos (WSOP/WPT Champ) isn't on the Team, but rather just a Pro. He doesn't necessarily own a part of FTP.

This explains why some of the players are on Team Full Tilt because they definitely aren't on the team because of their results.

Just my guess though.
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Old 07-16-2007, 06:50 PM
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The original "Team Full Tilt"ers like Clonie, Phil Gordon, Andy Bloch - yeah, because they invested in.

But since that original group they've added 3 people to "Team Full Tilt" - Matusow after he WSOP final tabled, Cunningham after he WSOP final tabled, and Gus Hansen with a sponsership contract.

Gus I presume (and am very likely completely wrong on) got a piece of the pie having signed a contract straight onto the team, the other two... ?
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Old 07-16-2007, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: Lee Watkinson + FT Qualifier + Winner = $18,250,000

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FT and other sites making this type of promotion use a insurance company , they don't pay out the entire 10M themselves

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I don't think you understand what is going on.

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Adding my 2c: If it was covered by an insurance policy it would be because the payout is only if someone wins the ME. Underwriters could easily calculate the odds of that and base a premium on this.

edit: Looks like FyteOn said this before I did.
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Old 07-16-2007, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: Lee Watkinson + FT Qualifier + Winner = $18,250,000

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FT and other sites making this type of promotion use a insurance company , they don't pay out the entire 10M themselves

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I don't think you understand what is going on.

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Adding my 2c: If it was covered by an insurance policy it would be because the payout is only if someone wins the ME. Underwriters could easily calculate the odds of that and base a premium on this.

edit: Looks like FyteOn said this before I did.

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Yup, just like how they have those banners during the All-Star game that say "Hit it here and someone wins a million bucks from 21st century". Most likely, the money is really coming from Llyods of London.
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Old 07-16-2007, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: Lee Watkinson + FT Qualifier + Winner = $18,250,000

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The original "Team Full Tilt"ers like Clonie, Phil Gordon, Andy Bloch - yeah, because they invested in.

But since that original group they've added 3 people to "Team Full Tilt" - Matusow after he WSOP final tabled, Cunningham after he WSOP final tabled, and Gus Hansen with a sponsership contract.

Gus I presume (and am very likely completely wrong on) got a piece of the pie having signed a contract straight onto the team, the other two... ?

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Did Clonie really have a bankroll to "invest" in FTP a few years ago? I'm skeptical of her finances.
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Old 07-16-2007, 07:18 PM
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Default Re: Lee Watkinson + FT Qualifier + Winner = $18,250,000

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"OTOH, Moneymaker/Raymer/Hachem definitely aren't getting a million a year from outside deals"

Are you sure about that?

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If you don't count their Stars deals? Yeah. I mean, has anyone seen any of their names on anything non-Stars related?
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Old 07-16-2007, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: Lee Watkinson + FT Qualifier + Winner = $18,250,000

It's very possible Hansen, Matusow, and Cunningham bought into the company too, especially after significant wins.

Maybe Carlos chose not to?
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Old 07-16-2007, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: Lee Watkinson + FT Qualifier + Winner = $18,250,000

his fulltilt page has mistake on it.. they should fix it before he wins the main event - go lee go!
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Old 07-16-2007, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: Lee Watkinson + FT Qualifier + Winner = $18,250,000

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ad,

"OTOH, Moneymaker/Raymer/Hachem definitely aren't getting a million a year from outside deals"

Are you sure about that?

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If you don't count their Stars deals? Yeah. I mean, has anyone seen any of their names on anything non-Stars related?

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Hachem on the WSOP video game
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: Lee Watkinson + FT Qualifier + Winner = $18,250,000

If the deal becomes -EV he can just breach the contract thanks to the civil war. Win/Win for Lee and an insurance claim for FTP. One of FTPs better PR moves
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