Why doesn't the Bellagio have a more "modern" waitlist

[NickMPK]

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It is crap like this that makes the American public so hesitant to condone legalized gambling.

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I doubt that most Americans have a clue about poker waitlists as it relates to gamblings. Most Americans that are opposed to gambling have either lost a lot of money, seen someone close to them lose a lot of money, or have never gambled and think all gambling is "wrong".

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Not wait lists specifically, but stuff like it that seems to harm the integrity of the game. Many people have heard of incidents where casino employees are bribed to rig games in favor of certain players. A lot of people oppose gambling because they think it attracts organized crime, and stories that sound like bribery contribute to this impression. Casinos could combat this be being completely transparent in all their operations, but for some reason they would rather make a few extra bucks than think about their long term future.

[NaturalSelection]

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The order of names on electronic lists can magically change just like on a paper list, although the fact that everyone can read the electronic list might make it happen less often.

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Everyone can read the paper list too! Just look at it, it's sitting right there in front of you. If you see someone get seated ahead of you, throw a fit if you must, but either way, the list is sitting right there!

[*TT*]

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Just tip when you sit down. If you play a lot and you tip often, thats more than enough. Greesing is in poor taste, tipping after service is ok.

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So it's OK for regulars to tip their way to the front of the list, but not tourists?

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Its ok for anyone to tip after service, but I don't think that you will find a floor willing to accept a tip before-service after the recent bunch of dismissals (of course I could be wrong, but it is logical to assume thats the case and I havent seen anything funny when I am at the B).

[*TT*]

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Do you see what I'm asking? I want to know if there is a way for the occasional player to jump the line or if there isn't. If there isn't, OK, it is not entirely unfair that regular customers should have a privilege that occasional ones don't get. But if there is, I'd just like to know it.

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I see why your asking, but if there was a practice of greasing palms in the past that practice is dead or nearly extinguished now from what I can tell. best bet - just jump up when they call a name and nobody answers, this is the one advantage that a tourist has over a local, we can't get away with that because they know who we are.

[MicroBob]

TT - Is this really done?
as a tourist you don't know when they called the name of someone that they do know.
Or if that person comes back after dinner or something and finds out that he was supposedly already seated then isn't the floor going to approach you about it?

[bav]

Rather than actually putting a new person on the top of any electronic or paper wait list, when the brush wants to give 'em priority they can just have the person hang close. When a seat opens, they simply point the favored patron at the seat and never call it. Anybody waiting who isn't actually listening for the dealer to call the seat open and verifying that the brush is calling the first name will miss this happening. And when someone does happen to notice and complain, there's always a standard sorta answer for it--the guy missed being called earlier, or his game broke and he needed a new seat, or whatever excuse-du-jour they concoct.

You can throw a fit, or accept that it happens, or play some place that they rarely do this. And throwing a fit won't help, so I recommend one of the latter two options. It would be a refreshing change, though, if just one time when someone complained the brush would just say "he regularly tips me so I put him in first". (Like that'll ever happen.)

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TT - Is this really done?
as a tourist you don't know when they called the name of someone that they do know.
Or if that person comes back after dinner or something and finds out that he was supposedly already seated then isn't the floor going to approach you about it?

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I probably shouldn't say this, but it happens every day in nearly every room across the nation - provided the player pool and tourist population is large enough. If nobody complains, there is no problem. With that said its not ethical, not encouraged, etc etc etc.

[bav]

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TT - Is this really done?

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You apparently have not read the several posts from surfinillini where he proudly states that he does this regularly. He rarely waits for his turn on the list.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...ue#Post10267380

...would be an example of his most recent such post.

[MitchL]

Canterbury recently implemented an electronic system and what once was the best cardroom (tied w/ Commerce) at seating players has now become an enormous clusterfuck.

[goodgrief]

Thanks, TT. I really appreciate your patience in answering my questions.