Calling myself into oblivion...5 live full-ring 25/50 hands...

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Hand 1. I wish you played like cero's advice, because he always says exactly what i think you are thinking...(and he says to fold)

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--rock1

Haha, I replied based on the info he gave, without considering what is obvious from the post--he called and won. Believe me, if he'd called and lost, he would know it was a retarded hand start to finish and have no questions about it. Hopefully I make it into these games some day so you can try your luck bluffing me out of big pots, rock1 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Hand 4 is [censored] terrible. How on earth can you make a preflop blunder like that. When he bets the turn, its a terrible just call. I'd pop him for sure... Your hand looks like 6/bluff and people will not believe you sometimes. Just an all around terrible hand especially if you called his river all in. Your call with a 6 is the same as with Ace hi, basically.

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--Strassa

I agree with all of this except the last 2 sentences. 6s full is a much better hand than Ace hi, because he'll often be bluffing here with Ace hi, or occasionally with a pair that beats it. Thus, when you catch the bluff with the underfull, you always get the whole pot.

[dlpnyc21]

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Game is 25/50 live game at a private club. Usually I like to be the aggressor in hands but people bluff a lot at these clubs so sometimes it's better to call down. However, this forces you to make a lot of tough decisions and you can look like a donkey a lot of times. Note that in all of these hands the villian's tendencies are critical. Advice on all sreets welcome.

To call or not to call?

Hand 1: Middle pair, he bets all streets.

Limper from LP, Villian raises button or CO to 600, I call with KdJx from the BB, limper calls. To start the hand, I have approximately 10kish. Villian in the hand is a 2p2er, we have played many hours together and respect each other's games. He has made some fairly large bluffs against me and vice versa, so I know he is capable of a lot, and he knows that I know that.

Flop comes QJx two diamonds. I check, chk, he bets 1200 I call. Turn is another brick, I check, he bets 2600, I think for a long time and just call. River is a blank 10, I check again and he quickly shoves me in. I?


Hand 2: I slowplay QQ.
I start the hand with around 20kish. Game is playing really wild, with one of the players stuck a TON and raising 40% of flops to 1k+ (nyu dave for those that know him). He makes it 1k in late position, CO calls, I just call QQ on button. I know this is a mistake, and normally I reraise pre, but I was looking to see a flop with no ace or king and try and get a lot of money in against NYU Dave. Ralphie, for those that know him he is a very strong, thinking player who trusts his reads very strongly, thinks for a long while before calling from the blinds. Flop is J105r. Ralph checks, chk, chk, I bet 2.5k. Ralphie very quickly checkraises everyone AI for 11k more. I??


Hand 3: KK gets cracked?
We're about 20k deep to start the hand. NYU Dave makes it 300 to go pre I reraise in position to 1200 with KK. Everyone else folds he calls. Flop is A87 two diamonds. Check, I chk. Who likes a bet here? Turn Qo. He bets 2k I call. River 6 he very quickly bets 8k. I??? Again, this player is capable of running huge bluffs but he also is very good about getting value from his big hands.

Hand 4: Trips?
NYU Dave makes it 1k to go from early position, player to my right calls, I call with 86cc, thinking a few other players would call behind. In retrospect, this call was a mistake because NYU only had around 10k to start the hand. Flop comes Q106r. Chks around. Turn 6. He bets 1k. Other player folds, I call. River Q, he shoves in for around 8k.

Hand 5: Big pair pre.
NYU Dave makes it 1k to go pre, button calls, I wake up with QQ in SB and make it 5k to go pre. I have around 20k to start the hand, having NYU just barely covered. NYU Dave calls other guy folds. Flop comes Kh10h5x. I don't have the Qh. I bet 6k? Is this a mistake? He thinks for a bit and shoves in, I??



Advice on all hands/all streets welcome. Just fyi, I did not lose all of these hands, and I may or may not post results, it depends on the responses I get.

Thank you,
dlpnyc21

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Thanks for the responses guys, lots of really good advice. Much appreciated. I guess I will post results since a few people have asked for them.


Hand 1: It was really hard for me to put him on a hand here that wouldn't be scared of two pair, which would be dead in my range. I also felt he would have to think on the river with an overpair or AQ, and he bet the river very quickly. Honestly, though my decision was on the turn, since I didn't actually have that much behind. This was a tough one, but when I called he tapped the table.

Hand 2: This was the hand I regret the most. Not reraising here v. nyu dave is all but criminal, I missed so much value. Also, calling after ralphie cr AI ALL of us (3 players) is just plain suicide. The reason I called was that 1) my hand was underrepped therefore he would overestimate his FE if he had 89, kq 2) he could theoretically be pushing AJ for value. Both of these reasons didn't make much sense in the end, especially since I had qq making kq so unlikely. He had 555.

Hand 3: I think betting the flop isn't terrible, but I don't like inflating the pot any further when my hand has a lot of showdown value. On the river, I just thought the bet sizing/pattern indicated an ace rather than a bluff, and when I folded the hand he said he had air, but later on (the next day) he told me he had AJ. But I guess I'll never know.

Hand 4: Not raising the turn here, again, is really bad, cause it could look like a semi-bluff, and calling the river is also bad, although I don't think it's the same as calling with ace high, simply because I beat ace high (dave can show up with ace high here). However, his turn donk/river overbet is way too strong here, he had QJ.

Hand 5: This was by far the toughest hand of all. I corrected my earlier error and raised preflop to get money in the pot when ahead, and then when the flop came I made up my mind that I had the best hand preflop and I was going with it. Unfortunately, NYU had the K7ss and made a great value push. I don't mind bet/folding this hand in retrospect, but my 6k bet was kind of weakish and I thought he could push a draw both because he felt he had FE and because he simply wanted to gamble because he was stuck that night.


Again, lots of great repsonses on this thread, definitely eye-opening.

thanks,
dlpnyc21