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#42
05-01-2007, 01:00 AM
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Re: bizarre 3 way 10/20 hand
is kanye bad enough to not care about building up the pot?
cuz if he's not then i really doubt he has a boat. i call here. also you def. look FOS in kanye's eyes. 
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#43
05-01-2007, 03:42 AM
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Re: bizarre 3 way 10/20 hand
i call without much hesitation, i think you chop a lot here and its not unreasonable to think he could bluff you. Might even valueshove an 8, but I doubt he gets there with one thats naked. i dont see him getting there with a boat often.
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#45
05-01-2007, 05:01 AM
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Re: bizarre 3 way 10/20 hand
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[ QUOTE ] this kinda makes my shake my head in confusion too. but I fold. I see you losing or splitting if hes bad. i mean, can he EVER be bluffing? sure doesn't seem like he ever gets here with a worse hand that value pushes. cant see him ever not betting a lone 8 on this river (if he even gets there with an 8 given the action) JJ /66/88 are all possibilites. [/ QUOTE ] but doesn't it look like i'm kinda fos too? [/ QUOTE ] this is what makes the decision confusing to me. you do take a line that could be a bluff. however, whenever i think [censored] like this, it seems like im just making up a relatively poor justification for calling. its prob defenitely relevant in this hand tho, just pointing out i thuink its silly to call based soley off that premise. furthermore- for every1 who says "this is never a boat" do we believe he just floated flop/is turning a jack into a bluff(??)/has the same hand as us? every1 who said call is > me, so im just curious
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#46
05-01-2007, 05:08 AM
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Re: bizarre 3 way 10/20 hand
I don't see why everyone thinks it's THAT unreasonable that he slowplayed a set on this flop. I don't know much about Kanye but from what I have seen he is decent and nothing special, so I don't think he's creative enough to bluff here and don't think he's bad enough to be value-shoving worse.
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#47
05-01-2007, 10:23 AM
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Re: bizarre 3 way 10/20 hand
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[ QUOTE ] Well, do you expect JRB to fold bottom full here when he seems to have bet hoping to get raised? [/ QUOTE ] eh, i was just kidding, kind of. [/ QUOTE ] I hope so, I don't think you want to be in the business of making people lay down full houses...
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#48
05-01-2007, 12:19 PM
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Re: bizarre 3 way 10/20 hand
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[ QUOTE ] kanye sucks, hes not bluffing like this [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] ...says the people who wont play me hu...
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#49
05-01-2007, 12:23 PM
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Re: bizarre 3 way 10/20 hand
la, this hand was more of an experiment than anything else...figured i'd get looked up with a pretty wide range considering how i was playing and how this hand went down...9 10 is a instacall here tho
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#50
05-01-2007, 12:34 PM
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Re: bizarre 3 way 10/20 hand
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[ QUOTE ] Does kanye ever have 66/88/JJ here? Tons of straight draws on the flop, if he has a set, I think he would at least C/R this flop. I also don't understand why you raise the river - what do you beat that you think will call your river raise? I think kanye's most likely holding is 86 or J8 suited, given his cold/call on the flop. I think this is a pretty clear fold. [/ QUOTE ] i think j6 or j8 are the the least likely of hands in his range we lose to. he protects these on the flop 90% of the time [/ QUOTE ] yea, he isnt just flat calling this flop with two pair or a set, its way too dangerous, he is pushing i call here cuz of this plain simple fact that most of u are overlooking
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