C'mon, let's playalong nOObs and sophs! A9s - Page 5

MrWookie · #41 04-26-2007, 04:56 PM

Do you have button's WtSD stat?

lqd78 · #42 04-26-2007, 04:57 PM

now the noobs come in [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
we check raise the river

Bruce D · #43 04-26-2007, 05:03 PM

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I can't resist posting in this thread, Bozlax.

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No worries. You're helping to keep it moving, not initiating.

The problem with checking on the flop is that I couldn't be sure that BTN would bet it for me (check the stats). If he were more aggressive, then Miles's line would be exactly what I would go for (check, raise if 3-handed, call and see if HU), but a bet on the flop gives me what I need to know (if BTN raises, he's on an overpair, calls he's on OCs and I've likely got him reverse-dominated), and MP1 will call along because he's a donk.

Once BTN just called the flop, it was a ticket to ValueTown unless a K or Q turned, so we'll fast-forward to the river:

Ultimate Bet 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, MP1 calls.

River: (9.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
MP1 checks, Hero ?

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Bet. Hopefully btn will raise with his AQ-AK. He will certainly check behind any TT-KK but probably give a crying call with QQ-KK if you bet. You must bet. If MP 3bets you need to consider the likelihood that MP holds A7 or K7 waiting for the two guys behind him to throw money into the pot.

SomthingOrOther · #44 04-26-2007, 05:04 PM

Awsum thread, you guys do this alot?.....you should.

nerdking · #45 04-26-2007, 05:09 PM

are you kidding Som?

easy bet. we've been leading the hand the whole time, let's not break tempo here. Bet/3bet (if button raises; if MP1 raises here, simply call as he could have been slowplaying a 7) the river. C/R here is awful because it allows Button to check behind and robs us of a call, 3bet because button's possible AK/AQ is no goot.

all my bases covered?

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S · #46 04-26-2007, 05:13 PM

nerdking is right, except a c/r here is far from awful.

MrWookie · #47 04-26-2007, 05:15 PM

I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] a river c/r. We're more likely to get 1-2 BB from MP this way, and unless button has the weakest JJ evar, he's almost certainly going to give us two bets. I don't think he'll raise AK often enough, though

bozlax · #48 04-26-2007, 05:19 PM

WtSD: around 40

nerdking · #49 04-26-2007, 05:20 PM

Wook and I are debating presently on AOL, but my gut is telling me this guy might MUBS up on us and just check this river.

shuinthehouse · #50 04-26-2007, 05:22 PM

So we think button's holdings are weakly played TT-AA all of which we beat except AA, or, more likely AQ-AK, all of which he will now bet even with his low AF, either b/c he improved or b/c he now thinks his overpair is good? I'd be too afraid of letting this get checked through so I think I would bet.