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Old 02-08-2007, 07:22 PM
multious multious is offline
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Default Re: 100/200 vs aba

i feel a fold in this situation too. Especially considering that many of the hands in his range that you are beating have decent odds to hit on the river while the hands that are beating you have you crushed.
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Old 02-08-2007, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: 100/200 vs aba

The fact that this is against Aba is of paramount importance. If this was against Benyamine, instacall.
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Old 02-08-2007, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: 100/200 vs aba

assuming theres normal metagame...

callcllcalclclalclclaclal
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Old 02-08-2007, 08:55 PM
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assuming theres normal metagame...

callcllcalclclalclclaclal

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That was my first thought. I think this depends alot on his view of your image. If he feels like you fire 2nd barrels often then he could be doing this with a wide range.

Does anybody consider c/c'ing the flop? If so, how does the rest of the hand play out?
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Old 02-08-2007, 09:37 PM
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Default Re: 100/200 vs aba

Tough spot, I think even if he might be floating you on turn you have to fold. You are playing for stacks on turn and even if he turned a draw and is raising on the come your hand is still vulnerable. There is a strong possibility he has QJ or even a set here as well. It's a tough spot being out of pos to a great player. What was the end result?
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Old 02-08-2007, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: 100/200 vs aba

What do you think aba believe's your 2 barrelling range to be here? Is it mostly only 2pair+ and air hands or are you firing again with AQ, AJ, A9 type hands too? I'm assuming w/ you being OOP and the draw hitting that you are just c/cing the latter, which makes it an easier fold.
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Old 02-08-2007, 10:55 PM
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I'd call just to make sure I was wrong. :-P
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Old 02-09-2007, 03:38 AM
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Default Re: 100/200 vs aba

folding can't be right here, it's CO vs button and I'm assuming your range is still fairly wide betting the turn (potting a lot of hands preflop, usually c-betting the flop, betting the ace on the turn). Seriously, if you can't call this, what do you need to call.. set or straight??? Like I said, that can't be right...
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Old 02-09-2007, 05:48 AM
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Default Re: 100/200 vs aba

Did we get results?
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Old 02-09-2007, 07:18 AM
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folding can't be right here, it's CO vs button and I'm assuming your range is still fairly wide betting the turn (potting a lot of hands preflop, usually c-betting the flop, betting the ace on the turn). Seriously, if you can't call this, what do you need to call.. set or straight??? Like I said, that can't be right...

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the problem is that Stinger is either way behind or way ahead now but aba most likely has outs. aba is never shoving AQ or KT here so he either has a set, bigger 2pair, straight, or some kind of pair + gutshot + fd combo hand, and once in awhile total air possibly. you are overvaluing AT as 2 pair here when really if Stinger is ahead here he could have KQ and still be ahead here. basically AT = KQ here as both are either ahead or behind right now.
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