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Old 12-13-2006, 03:36 PM
KneeCo KneeCo is offline
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Default Re: Cheating in 500$ hux4 sngs.

If Stars sees they are doing this and isn't doing anything about it, I'd be pissed. Why do they get upset when people organize to play the FPP sats to the 215 and take turns winning them? Hell, why do they revoke your chat for saying offensive things? There are things to consider here beyond EV, when your running an online poker site, perception of fairness is just as important as fairness in practice.

If these guys are doing this it's pretty damn obvious they should get the 'can't play cash games/sit and gos together anymore' thing.
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Old 12-13-2006, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: Cheating in 500$ hux4 sngs.

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it could scare the fish. ... people ... like Yuv

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haha yuv is a fish

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that is true. and he was scared initially.

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Old 12-13-2006, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: Cheating in 500$ hux4 sngs.

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If Stars sees they are doing this and isn't doing anything about it, I'd be pissed. Why do they get upset when people organize to play the FPP sats to the 215 and take turns winning them? Hell, why do they revoke your chat for saying offensive things? There are things to consider here beyond EV, when your running an online poker site, perception of fairness is just as important as fairness in practice.

If these guys are doing this it's pretty damn obvious they should get the 'can't play cash games/sit and gos together anymore' thing.

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Stars replied to me that do not care, as the players do not gain any ev from this. So, consider yourself pissed.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: Cheating in 500$ hux4 sngs.

If they are playing on same bankroll, the 'chipdump' saves them playing time where they can play elsewhere.

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Old 12-13-2006, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: Cheating in 500$ hux4 sngs.

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If they are playing on same bankroll, the 'chipdump' saves them playing time where they can play elsewhere.

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Think long and hard about what you're saying because that statement doesn't make sense when you're looking at the big picture.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: Cheating in 500$ hux4 sngs.

Nat,

OK, Here's a Time = $ argument, assuming they're just break-even players.
Assume every HU match = 1H, every win = 1$

66% Time Split 1st Round:
25% Both Win 1st Round (2H, 1$)
25% Both Lose 1st Round (2H, 0$)
25% One Win 2nd Round (3H, 1$)
25% One Lose 2nd Round (3H, 0$)

33% Time Together 1st Round:
50% One Win 2nd Round (1H, 1$)
50% One Lose 2nd Round (1H, 0$)

Team: 1$ / 4.4 Man Hours


How long does it take a single break-even guy to make 1$?

50% Lose 1st Round (1H, 0$)
25% Win 2nd Round (2H, 1$)
25% Lose 2nd Round (2H, 0$)

Individual: 1$ / 6 Hours

So they're making money faster as a team.

Stumpy
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:55 PM
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Default Re: Cheating in 500$ hux4 sngs.

That's why I said look at the big picture. Think outside the box of the 4 player HU match mold. Why does this offer a time advantage over regular 500 HU? Or 1K HU?

Also, assuming a team = individual is kind of silly.
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Old 12-13-2006, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: Cheating in 500$ hux4 sngs.

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If they are playing on same bankroll, the 'chipdump' saves them playing time where they can play elsewhere.

ToT

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Think long and hard about what you're saying because that statement doesn't make sense when you're looking at the big picture.

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I am not claiming it makes sense, except in their own mind.
And 'in the box'

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Old 12-13-2006, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: Cheating in 500$ hux4 sngs.

hah, i didn't use the "box" term on purpose. i hate that term.
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Old 12-13-2006, 11:08 PM
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