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11-10-2006, 11:44 AM
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Pelosi for President
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[ QUOTE ] I'm still waiting for some examples from [Nancy Pelosi's] voting record or stated policy positions to suggest that "she is as bad as it gets." [/ QUOTE ] She's pretty much as bad as it gets : link [/ QUOTE ] She looks just the ticket to me : same link [ QUOTE ] Legalize medical marijuana. YES on allowing human embryonic stem cell research Supported funding contraception and UN family planning. NO on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. NO on protecting the Pledge of Allegiance. YES on replacing death penalty with life imprisonment. NO on allowing school prayer during the War on Terror. YES on requiring states to test students. Reduce class size to 18 children in grades 1 to 3. NO on implementing Bush-Cheney national energy policy. YES on starting implementation of Kyoto Protocol. Preserve Alaska's ANWR instead of drilling it. YES on increasing AMTRAK funding by adding $214M to $900M. NO on deauthorizing "critical habitat" for endangered species. NO on speeding up approval of forest thinning projects. NO on Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China. NO on withdrawing from the WTO. YES on campaign finance reform banning soft-money contributions. NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1. Make health care a right, not a privilege. NO on deploying SDI. NO on continuing intelligence gathering without civil oversight. No soldier left behind in war - no veteran left behind at home. NO on zero-funding OSHA's Ergonomics Rules instead of $4.5B. YES on raising 401(k) limits & making pension plans more portable. NO on treating religious organizations equally for tax breaks. NO on reducing tax payments on Social Security benefits. NO on eliminating the Estate Tax ("death tax"). NO on making the Bush tax cuts permanent. YES on establishing "network neutrality" (non-tiered Internet). NO on authorizing military force in Iraq. NO on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date. <font color="red">NO on banning Internet gambling by credit card. </font> [/ QUOTE ] Smart woman. 
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#42
11-10-2006, 11:50 AM
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Re: Pelosi for President
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm still waiting for some examples from [Nancy Pelosi's] voting record or stated policy positions to suggest that "she is as bad as it gets." [/ QUOTE ] She's pretty much as bad as it gets : link [/ QUOTE ] She looks just the ticket to me : same link [/ QUOTE ] Why don't you guys get specific about votes you agree/disagree with?
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#43
11-10-2006, 11:53 AM
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No Brainer......European Education System is Superior
It is a no brainer. The European education system is superior. Has anyone seen John Stossel's education piece?
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/story?id=1500338 In this special, Stossel spends a lot of time covering the Belgium public education system. In this system, the money goes with the student (voucher system) so schools must be very competive to keep parents and students happy. UNLIKE the US system where the teacher's union has a stranglehold on education policies. Stossel and myself are in agreement that the teacher's union is the single biggest obstacle to reforming American education..... On an anedoctal note, two years ago I took a few biology classes at the local community college and I was shocked by some of the dummies in the class. Many were just lazy but other lacked even basic problem solving skills...... During my first lab quiz, a hot blonde wanted to cheat off me. Using my normal tack and diplomacy, I told her to go [censored] herself. She never tried to cheat off me again but for the rest of the semester she was very flirtacious towards me (which is pretty good for a 40 yr old with a belly [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img])..... Just when I think I understand women they find another way to suprise me...
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#44
11-10-2006, 11:54 AM
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Re: Some oomph in that poof
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There are a number of solid humane arguments as to why we don't want workers and their families exploited for $1.50 an hour. [/ QUOTE ] Why do you think this would happen without a minimum wage? [ QUOTE ] The same arguments don't hold for why we should prevent people earning more than above some arbitrary number. [/ QUOTE ] Funny you should use the phrase "arbitrary number" while supporting a minimum wage. Because that's all the minimum wage and a "living wage" is.
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#45
11-10-2006, 11:54 AM
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Re: Some oomph in that poof
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Just a thought: In PA, Senator Santorum (R) argued during his campaign that too many families have both parents working, to the detriment to the children--yet he's against an increase in the minimum wage. It seems to me that proponents of "stay at home moms" ought to be IN FAVOR of an increase. Plenty of working moms aren't working for personal fufillment--it's that, in this economic climate, a minimum-wage earning father simply can't support himself, his wife, and a child--there simply aren't enough hours in the day. An increase in the minimum wage might result in more moms electing to stay home (or at least reducing the number of hours worked). Thus, politicians such as Santorum run the risk of being seen as hypocrites. [/ QUOTE ] I'll go out on a limb without any facts to back it up. But I'll say that the % of married people with children making minimum wage is in the single digits. And probably the low single digits. When someone enters the job market with no experience and no skills, they're expected to become at least slightly more valuable in a reasonable amount of time. The wage scale is a ladder - not a bed. My niece got her first raise in a couple of weeks, just because she smiled alot at the customers - it's not very hard to get off that bottom wrung of the ladder.
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#46
11-10-2006, 12:00 PM
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Re: No Brainer......European Education System is Superior
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During my first lab quiz, a hot blonde wanted to cheat off me. Using my normal tack and diplomacy, I told her to go [censored] herself. She never tried to cheat off me again but for the rest of the semester she was very flirtacious towards me [/ QUOTE ] Hidden brag post. Move to bbv plz [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#47
11-10-2006, 12:02 PM
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Can\'t afford to
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She never tried to cheat off me again but for the rest of the semester she was very flirtacious towards me (which is pretty good for a 40 yr old with a belly). [/ QUOTE ]I'm glad you felt flattered when a 40-year old with a belly flirted with you. Shows you're not discriminating in yer tastes. (Incidentally, teachers unions are quite strong in Belgium.)
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#48
11-10-2006, 01:59 PM
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Re: Some oomph in that poof
[/ QUOTE ] A possible price ceiling on the rich has got nothing to do with the poor having access to a minimum wage. There are a number of solid humane arguments as to why we don't want workers and their families exploited for $1.50 an hour. [/ QUOTE ] aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarggggggggggg ok to start with there are about 15 other threads on min. wage. The "poor" or "less fortunate" already have access to higher wages. They get paid more by being WORTH MORE to the employer. Because someone is ignorant, lazy or somehow otherwise a less desireable employee we should pay them more ?? Any breathing human can make more than the minimum wage. This "living wage" garbage is a strawman and im sick to death of it. Lets get to the meat of your statist argument without all this obfuscaton in the name of helping people. Just say "I think the world would be better when the government controls our money " NeBlis
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#49
11-10-2006, 03:41 PM
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Re: Pelosi for President
Legalize medical marijuana.
fine YES on allowing human embryonic stem cell research This is already alowed. Gov funding is stupid and wasteful.. so is banning it Supported funding contraception and UN family planning. WASTEFULL spending + statism NO on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. cool... but why did she vote for it in the first place ??? NO on protecting the Pledge of Allegiance. good "in god we trust" is obv establishment YES on replacing death penalty with life imprisonment. stupid human rights garbage. bullets are cheaper than life in prison. NO on allowing school prayer during the War on Terror. good... the state shouldnt run schools but if its going to at least dont mke them indoctrination centers for jeebus freaks YES on requiring states to test students. again the state shouldnt run schools but if it is going to at least make shure they are doing something with our stolen money. Reduce class size to 18 children in grades 1 to 3. jobs program for teacher unions NO on implementing Bush-Cheney national energy policy. partisan garbage YES on starting implementation of Kyoto Protocol. Kyoto is bad science stacked onto bad policy. again with the partisan / anti-industry garbage Preserve Alaska's ANWR instead of drilling it. idiotic YES on increasing AMTRAK funding by adding $214M to $900M. protectoinism, favoritism, statism WASTE PORK WASTE. If amtrak didn't suck they would be fine. NO on deauthorizing "critical habitat" for endangered species. hard to say i dont know much about this in particular. But i suspect that the current laws are to convoluted to be effective. NO on speeding up approval of forest thinning projects. proper forrest management makes sense. I grew up in a forestry mgmt family. The thinning proposals are sound and usefull. just like ANWAR this is just pandering to the greenpeace types. NO on Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China. protectionist anti-industry NO on withdrawing from the WTO. good if we have a global trade system we need a decent court to adress problems. (not that the WTO is perfect) YES on campaign finance reform banning soft-money contributions. Soft money is a stupid issue. if i give money to a party they should be able to share it as needed. NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1. nanny state garbage if I need a gun quick to kill someone I can get it. Make health care a right, not a privilege. totaly idiotic. who pays ? another way to steal and expand gov power NO on deploying SDI. SDI = better than nothing. but still a big gov program so prolly fine. No soldier left behind in war - no veteran left behind at home. pandering and spending in one neat package NO on zero-funding OSHA's Ergonomics Rules instead of $4.5B. Union PORK. an other way to spend on what should be handled in the private sector. YES on raising 401(k) limits & making pension plans more portable. gov envolvment in retirement is beond stupid in all cases. NO on treating religious organizations equally for tax breaks. NO on reducing tax payments on Social Security benefits. http://www.fairtax.org/ the tax situation in this contry is a joke. People like this just make it worse. We need to take this power away. NO on making the Bush tax cuts permanent. kiss my ass YES on establishing "network neutrality" (non-tiered Internet). good NO on authorizing military force in Iraq. "As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." NO on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date. pandering political expediency NO on banning Internet gambling by credit card. Well only a brain dead idiot would suport the ban. and Nacys not brain dead. NeBlis
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#50
11-10-2006, 03:56 PM
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Re: Pelosi for President
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YES on allowing human embryonic stem cell research This is already alowed. Gov funding is stupid and wasteful.. so is banning it Supported funding contraception and UN family planning. WASTEFULL spending + statism [/ QUOTE ] If you just think government spending is bad on general principle... well nobody cares. I think contraception, family planning, stem cell research are great places to spend money. [ QUOTE ] YES on replacing death penalty with life imprisonment. stupid human rights garbage. bullets are cheaper than life in prison. [/ QUOTE ] 'LOL' [ QUOTE ] NO on implementing Bush-Cheney national energy policy. partisan garbage [/ QUOTE ] 'LOL' [ QUOTE ] NO on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1. nanny state garbage if I need a gun quick to kill someone I can get it. [/ QUOTE ] 'LOL' [ QUOTE ] Make health care a right, not a privilege. totaly idiotic. who pays ? another way to steal and expand gov power [/ QUOTE ] I would disagree, but this is at least a legit complaint. [ QUOTE ] YES on raising 401(k) limits & making pension plans more portable. gov envolvment in retirement is beond stupid in all cases. [/ QUOTE ] I would disagree here as well.
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