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Old 10-01-2006, 03:18 PM
whodaman whodaman is offline
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Default Re: check the flop, call down.

joe,
you sould raise either the turn or river

turn in order to charge them/ get value from lower cases and higher kings which they are rarely folding here.

river, not just because people are idiots and the lag didn't cap, but also because your line is screwy and they are a lot more likely to look you up here with one pair.

I fully dont understand how you get your read of monster or bluff here?

he could easily be betting any pair thinking you have a 44 type hand.

By the way.. i like teh flop check occasionally precisely so you can raise these turns and rivers. Tricky play = you get paid off more.
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Old 10-02-2006, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: check the flop, call down.

With him being a lagtard, is there any reason to believe that we can't just raise the turn for value?
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Old 10-02-2006, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: check the flop, call down.

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With him being a lagtard, is there any reason to believe that we can't just raise the turn for value?

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overcall?

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Old 10-02-2006, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: check the flop, call down.

What kind of hands are we looking at to overcall?
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Old 10-02-2006, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: check the flop, call down.

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What kind of hands are we looking at to overcall?

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I was being a bit facetious, we have no clue what the BB has.

another question - don't you want another bluff from the lagtard on the river? Or would you rather see him fold the turn?

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Old 10-02-2006, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: check the flop, call down.

I mean, ya, I'd rather him continue with a bluff in a lot of circumstances.

It's quite possible that I'm completely off base here but I'd rather peel the turn and induce the river bluff in a situation where I feel I have less equity. I figure to have the best hand a huge portion of the time on the turn (am I wrong?) and thus would rather try to get the lagtard to make a bad call down. I'm not that concerned with getting to showdown cheaply.
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Old 10-02-2006, 01:30 AM
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Default Re: check the flop, call down.

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With him being a lagtard, is there any reason to believe that we can't just raise the turn for value?

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overcall?



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Percisely, toss in a river bet from the lagtard too.
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