2007 MLB HOF Voting Poll

[Pudge714]

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Alan Trammell is getting less love than Jim Rice, Lee Smith, Don Mattingly, and Orel [censored] Hershiser for god's sake. That's horrible.

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I think that has to do with playing on lower profile teams in smaller markets.

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That and the fact that people compare offensive numbers without factoring the difference in position.

[Jack of Arcades]

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Were you watching baseball between 1975 and 1984?

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That would be pretty hard, considering I was born in 1986.

[Jack of Arcades]

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How so few people vote for Rice here and in the writers is beyond me.

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Jim Rice was the 2nd highest vote getter in 2006. I fully expect him to be elected in 2008 (it's a down year with no one good coming up).

I don't really see a reason to vote for him, though. He only had about 5 great seasons, but his peak wasn't fantastic. He didn't really have much longevity, either.

[Schwartzy61]

Well if Cal Ripken is getting in with his MLB record 350 GIDP I don't see how you can keep Rice and his 315 (6th all-time) out of the Hall of Fame.

Funny thing, the top 5 in GIDP in baseball history are all in the HOF, so how you gonna keep Rice out?

[MaxxDaddy]

Obviously I've gotten some flack from my earlier post. I must admit given the state of the game today, I completely overlooked the fact that there were substantial differences in position players relatively recently. I guess I should go back and compare all other hall of fame shortstops and weigh in on Trammell again. I wonder how much of my previous thinking is weighed into current hall of fame selection criteria.

[Wynton]

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How so few people vote for Rice here and in the writers is beyond me.

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Jim Rice was the 2nd highest vote getter in 2006. I fully expect him to be elected in 2008 (it's a down year with no one good coming up).

I don't really see a reason to vote for him, though. He only had about 5 great seasons, but his peak wasn't fantastic. He didn't really have much longevity, either.

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I think Rice is one of those people where the raw numbers may not do him justice. He was an unusually complete player and really the heart and soul of his team. I'm sure if you had the chance to watch him play you would have appreciated his intangibles more.

Still, I did not vote for him either, because I thought he simply did not amass enough numbers.

[niss]

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Were you watching baseball between 1975 and 1984?

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That would be pretty hard, considering I was born in 1986.

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Then this post is silly:

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I can't imagine voting for Jim Rice and not:

Andre Dawson
Dave Parker
Harold Baines
Darrell Evans
Dwight Evans
Steve Garvey
Al Oliver
Don Mattingly
Jon Olerud
Dale Murphy

and a bunch of other guys that look the same.

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[Jack of Arcades]

So I can't discuss players I've never seen before?

[prohornblower]

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Funny thing, the top 5 in GIDP in baseball history are all in the HOF, so how you gonna keep Rice out?

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That doesn't surprise me at all. Considering HOFers have a ton of career AB's, many of them are power hitters, and thus, are not on the fast side, and many of them hit 3,4,5, which means that they came up to bat with runners on fairly regularly. But yeah, it sounds kind of funny when you say it out loud.

The Sklar Bros. should do a piece on this. "How to get into the HOF, two outs at a time." I loved their Jose Oquendo HOF push a couple years back. Hilarious stuff.

[samjjones]

My ballot: Ripken and Gwynn.