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06-27-2006, 12:15 AM
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Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (6/26) (5-5 NL)
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Crack- Check your PM. WSOP Update Mo is down to a few thousand. He needs a pot soon. [/ QUOTE ] man, Cardplayer.com must have some lag time with their updates. They've still got Mo listed with about $22k in chips. Unless their info is current and Jay's is old. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] 
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#45
06-27-2006, 12:17 AM
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Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (6/26) (5-5 NL)
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[ QUOTE ] Crack- Check your PM. WSOP Update Mo is down to a few thousand. He needs a pot soon. [/ QUOTE ] man, Cardplayer.com must have some lag time with their updates. They've still got Mo listed with about $22k in chips. Unless their info is current and Jay's is old. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I think he's now dropped to 8th.
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#47
06-27-2006, 12:22 AM
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Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (6/26) (5-5 NL)
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About 20 minutes ago, there were 150 left. The players chip counts are not updated for all players. Most are old counts. [/ QUOTE ] ugh, doesn't good for Mo. let's hope he can triple up somewhere soon.
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#48
06-27-2006, 12:49 AM
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Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (6/26) (5-5 NL)
The Moneymaker question....
Well with any Ace you are never more than a 2-1 dog (unless your up against Aces) - the suited is a plus. A-2 will often split with, say A-7
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#49
06-27-2006, 01:18 AM
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Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (6/26) (5-5 NL)
No - not against any another Ace - against any other hand (like even KK) (but not AA)
Via poker stove KK versus A2 suited - 67/32 just about the worst you can expect. Maybe it gets as bad as 70/30 (AK v A2) Still not great and I am certainly not advocating his play here - just what he might have been considering. Maybe he added a possible KQ in the mix of hands that he could be up against. If Money maker called with say 55 against a KK, that would far worse (81/19 - 4 to one dog). I guess my ultimate point is that in a tournament setting different ideas apply. 5000th place pays the same as 1000th so you do have to gamble a bit to be ahead of the curve. Domination isn't as bad as it at first seems. With an opponent with Ac5C versus your Ah2h it is 55/44 - not so bad if you rooting for coin flips... maybe there was other dead money in the pot. Scenerio - small blind 1000, big blind 2000. You are Middle position and call (2000) with A2 of hearts. Button goes "all in" for 8000 (maybe a steal (20%). Blinds fold. Pot is 13,000 - Let's say he turns his cards face up before your call and shows you pocket KK - you should still make the call (67/32) with 6000 to call into 13,000. With mid size ace in his hand your still ok (A7 to your A2 is 57/41) - domination isn't always as bad as some make it out to be and if you are free rolling as a donk player - you gotta get lucky to win anyway... Not a strategy for cash games!
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