Theory - EP in Full Ring

[kitaristi0]

Limp QQ UTG has to be too weak.

[Johan L]

According to my database its EV+ for me. Maybe its my poor post flop skill. I might limp reraise with QQ depending on how many callers and who the raiser is.

[epdaws]

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I limp all pairs up to QQ in FR UTG.

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I don't know how much more of this thread I can take.

[kitaristi0]

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According to my database its EV+ for me.

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I'm sure it is, but I'll bet that raising is more +EV.

[Johan L]

Why?

[Fallen Hero]

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They present the idea that in limit play open limping is almost never correct b/c of blind steal concerns but in NL you can often more profitably play limped pots against the blinds than raised ones

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I'm curious about this advice in the book since in every game I've played (or any game I can think of) open limping in late position is beyond bad.

I don't play fr so I can't be sure how profitable open limping pp's from EP is compared to open raising them but I seriously doubt open limping is much better (if at all) unless table conditions really force it.

[Fallen Hero]

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Why?

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because you win many more pots (and bigger ones)

[Johan L]

Maybe but I loose many semi big pots by raising, where I have put in 4BB preflop and 10BB on the flop. Maybe its due to bad timed C-bets and poor post flop skill.

[Johan L]

It looks like that its the 6 max guys who advocate raising and we FR nits who limp.

[epdaws]

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It looks like that its the 6 max guys who advocate raising and we FR nits who limp.

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Johan,

What are your FR stats?