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Knet · #41 06-05-2007, 10:46 AM

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the qq hands isn't THAT bad.... but I guess i have a lot different image than fgators so when I shove with QQ I get called by TT a lot... and AQ, etc.

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what is your normal game?

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He plays in the same 2/4 game on stars.

And jesus, hand 3 isn't THAT bad, there are far better lines of course.

oyvindgee · #42 06-05-2007, 10:53 AM

wtf, as long as he does that with AK as well it's fine. Obv calling is often preferable, but game dynamics can change that around.

als33 · #43 06-05-2007, 11:11 AM

I don't mean to hate man, I got a lot of respect for your game, but I think recognizing leaks, something that we all have, is vital to a winning attitude, rather than just blaming it on something else. This one is pretty gross IMO.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($242)
UTG ($200)
Hero ($332.65)
Button ($374.40)
SB ($239.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, Button calls $8, SB raises to $36, 1 fold, Hero raises to $332.65, Button folds, SB calls $203.15 (All-In).

Flop: ($581.80) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($581.80) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($581.80) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $581.80

Results below:
Hero has Kd Ks (two pair, kings and twos).
SB has As Qd (two pair, queens and twos).
Outcome: Hero wins $581.79.

Flintoff · #44 06-05-2007, 11:15 AM

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I don't mean to hate man, I got a lot of respect for your game, but I think recognizing leaks, something that we all have, is vital to a winning attitude, rather than just blaming it on something else. This one is pretty gross IMO.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($242)
UTG ($200)
Hero ($332.65)
Button ($374.40)
SB ($239.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, Button calls $8, SB raises to $36, 1 fold, Hero raises to $332.65, Button folds, SB calls $203.15 (All-In).

Flop: ($581.80) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($581.80) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($581.80) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $581.80

Results below:
Hero has Kd Ks (two pair, kings and twos).
SB has As Qd (two pair, queens and twos).
Outcome: Hero wins $581.79.

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Why? You have to explain your reasoning!

als33 · #45 06-05-2007, 11:20 AM

edit: fgators is villain in above hand, not hero.

Shoving AQ vs aggresive player is standard, calling shoves looks like this:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

801,358,272 games 0.031 secs 25,850,266,838 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 33.065% 21.17% 11.89% 169669740 95303310.00 { AQo }
Hand 1: 66.935% 55.04% 11.89% 441081912 95303310.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ }

johnnyrocket · #46 06-05-2007, 11:33 AM

tough day gators

NoahSD · #47 06-05-2007, 11:49 AM

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I don't know how anybody can get away from the 3 hands at $2/4 in their right mind.

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Who the hell said to fold?

ImsaKidd · #48 06-05-2007, 12:18 PM

Hey fgators lets put a lot of $$ in pre with KK then fold an 822 flop.

pennpal · #49 06-05-2007, 12:46 PM

You would need a full stack to accomplish this.

Get it?

It's a joke.

You shortstack.

So you can't do what you said.

(Because that requires a larger stack)

Mrage · #50 06-05-2007, 12:48 PM

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You would need a full stack to accomplish this.

Get it?

It's a joke.

You shortstack.

So you can't do what you said.

(Because that requires a larger stack)

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