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Old 11-04-2007, 06:44 PM
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1. Ohio State (10-0) 1 2823 0.9993 1 1493 0.9953 1 99 0.990 0.9949 1
2. LSU (8-1) 2 2640 0.9345 2 1393 0.9287 2 96 0.960 0.9411 3
3. Oregon (8-1) 3 2590 0.9168 3 1376 0.9173 3 92 0.920 0.9180 5</pre><hr />

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Oregon is probably better than LSU, but hey whatever, I'll support a broken system if it puts LSU in the title game.

The idea that we rely on humans to pick who the best teams are is nuts though.
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:05 PM
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Missouri has crushed two teams that were ranked in the top 25 when they played (Texas Tech and Nebraska).

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This is the dumbest logic ever for giving a team credit. Who cares where a team WAS ranked. Who CANT crush Nebraska? Texas Tech is decent but clearly not deserving of being ranked.

Interesting is that the Sagarin predictor puts Missouri at #9, and West Virginia at #4.

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I was doing it for comparative purposes. You'll notice I did the same for WVU. By the way, here is a list of the Mountaineers' opponents so far.

Western Michigan
Marshall
Maryland
East Carolina
South Florida
Syracuse
Mississippi State
Rutgers

South Florida was their toughest game. However, they lost that one. What is their second toughest game? Mississippi State? Rutgers?

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What's their average margin of victory? Like 40 points? The only game WV lost, it was when their QB got hurt in the 2nd quarter, and they still almost won. I would love to get a bet on WV vs. Missouri, even WV -3. Don't get me wrong, Missouri is a good team. But you can't just look at who they have played.

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WVU's average margin of victory = 30.714
MU's average margin of victory = 24.125

Also, MU's strength of schedule is 53rd toughest, WVU's is 62nd toughest. The more I look at it, the more I think they are really, really even.

WVU -3 at a neutral site? I would definitely take the points.

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The difference maker is also that WV had injuries in their loss too. Sagarin Predictor has the difference as about 3.5 points.

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Yeah, and it also has MU as a four point dog to KU. Would you lay the points in that game?

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Probably Kansas.

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Fair enough. KU's SOS is 107. Appalachian State's SOS is 109.
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:08 PM
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Missouri has crushed two teams that were ranked in the top 25 when they played (Texas Tech and Nebraska).

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This is the dumbest logic ever for giving a team credit. Who cares where a team WAS ranked. Who CANT crush Nebraska? Texas Tech is decent but clearly not deserving of being ranked.

Interesting is that the Sagarin predictor puts Missouri at #9, and West Virginia at #4.

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I was doing it for comparative purposes. You'll notice I did the same for WVU. By the way, here is a list of the Mountaineers' opponents so far.

Western Michigan
Marshall
Maryland
East Carolina
South Florida
Syracuse
Mississippi State
Rutgers

South Florida was their toughest game. However, they lost that one. What is their second toughest game? Mississippi State? Rutgers?

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What's their average margin of victory? Like 40 points? The only game WV lost, it was when their QB got hurt in the 2nd quarter, and they still almost won. I would love to get a bet on WV vs. Missouri, even WV -3. Don't get me wrong, Missouri is a good team. But you can't just look at who they have played.

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WVU's average margin of victory = 30.714
MU's average margin of victory = 24.125

Also, MU's strength of schedule is 53rd toughest, WVU's is 62nd toughest. The more I look at it, the more I think they are really, really even.

WVU -3 at a neutral site? I would definitely take the points.

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The difference maker is also that WV had injuries in their loss too. Sagarin Predictor has the difference as about 3.5 points.

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Yeah, and it also has MU as a four point dog to KU. Would you lay the points in that game?

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Probably Kansas.

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Fair enough. KU's SOS is 107. Appalachian State's SOS is 109.

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And App State has 1 loss too. Why is there so much of a hangup on SOS?
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:12 PM
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Because it's a lot easier to go undefeated if you play a bunch of creampuffs.
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:20 PM
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Because it's a lot easier to go undefeated if you play a bunch of creampuffs.

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Wow, who would have guessed, capt. obvious. It still is only one very small measure in which team is better.
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:33 PM
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Ok great....tell me why KU is better than MU.
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:34 PM
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You asked an obvious question....you'll get an obvious answer.
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:37 PM
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Tell me what measures you take into account when determining which team is better. Also, what weights do you give each measure?
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Old 11-04-2007, 09:09 PM
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Ok great....tell me why KU is better than MU.

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Kansas has the 2nd best scoring defense in the country. Missouri is around 40th.

Kansas has the 2nd best scoring offense in the country. Missouri has about the 6th.
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Old 11-04-2007, 09:10 PM
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Ok great....tell me why KU is better than MU.

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I'm a complete moron. When I read this I was like, "Kutztown is clearly equal to Millersvile." Ugh...DII football does rule though.
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