Top Set Mining (TSM)

[mbillie1]

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laggy, degen spewing strategy for FULLTILT since villain never shows up with less than nut straight flush .

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[ofdabeat]

I play 25 handed.
The royal flush mining strategy is way better imo.

[feesjah]

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I play 25 handed.
The royal flush mining strategy is way better imo.

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playing with 2 decks you should include straight flushes, and 5 of a kinds. but thats pretty laggy

[checkmate36]

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Great post OP.

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you can't worry about overquads when you have quads.

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So true.

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How did I miss this bit of info. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[censored] brilliant OP!

[Zameus]

Solid Strategy IMHO. Just don't forget what Doyle said "never go broke with the arse end of a straight flush"....or was that TJ....?

[stephenNUTS]

I cant beleive I have been set-mining with all those stupid other pairs other than AA-QQ?
The GREAT thing now,is that if I have QQ and flop a set on a K Q 4r board ,,,I will EASILY MUCK them,just in case my opponent hit a set of KINGS.

Just seeing that overcard scares the &^($#(_(&^%^%**$$ out of me!!

Thank YOU SOoooooooooo Much!!!

[verneer]

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Money, I finally hit.

Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/05/10

Seat 2: seat2
Seat 3: seat3 ($54.75)
Seat 4: seat4
Seat 5: TopSetMiner($35.15)
Seat 6: seat6
Seat 7: seat7
Seat 8: seat8
Seat 9: seat9

seat2: posts small blind $0.25
seat3: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TopSetMiner [6h 6d]
seat4: folds
TopSetMiner: calls $0.50
seat6: folds
seat7: folds
seat8: folds
seat9: folds
seat2: calls $0.25
seat3: checks
*** FLOP *** [2c 2d 6c]
seat2: checks
seat3: checks
TopSetMiner: checks
*** TURN *** [2c 2d 6c] [Jc]
seat2: checks
seat3: bets $1
TopSetMiner: raises $2 to $3
seat2: folds
seat3: raises $2 to $5
TopSetMiner: raises $10 to $15
Seat3: calls $10
*** RIVER *** [2c 2d 6c Jc] [5d]
Seat3: bets $39.25 and is all-in
TopSetMiner: calls $19.65 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Seat3: shows [4c 3c] (a flush, Jack high)
TopSetMiner: shows [6h 6d] (a full house, Sixes full of Deuces)
TopSetMiner collected $67.80 from pot

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You mis-apply. Fish.

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This is an interesting hand to look at more closely.

I think a call is incorrect here but close. It's $20 to win $50 so you are getting 2.5 to 1 on your money. Let's look at the villain's range for pushing the river:

{22, JJ, 34}

So you lose to 66% of them. This makes the call mathematically incorrect. But ... I read in a book that there is always like a 10% chance that the villain is bluffing, so you have to factor that in.

It's easy to say "call" after seeing the results, but that's just being results oriented IMO.

[mixmastered]

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Money, I finally hit.

Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/05/10

Seat 2: seat2
Seat 3: seat3 ($54.75)
Seat 4: seat4
Seat 5: TopSetMiner($35.15)
Seat 6: seat6
Seat 7: seat7
Seat 8: seat8
Seat 9: seat9

seat2: posts small blind $0.25
seat3: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TopSetMiner [6h 6d]
seat4: folds
TopSetMiner: calls $0.50
seat6: folds
seat7: folds
seat8: folds
seat9: folds
seat2: calls $0.25
seat3: checks
*** FLOP *** [2c 2d 6c]
seat2: checks
seat3: checks
TopSetMiner: checks
*** TURN *** [2c 2d 6c] [Jc]
seat2: checks
seat3: bets $1
TopSetMiner: raises $2 to $3
seat2: folds
seat3: raises $2 to $5
TopSetMiner: raises $10 to $15
Seat3: calls $10
*** RIVER *** [2c 2d 6c Jc] [5d]
Seat3: bets $39.25 and is all-in
TopSetMiner: calls $19.65 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Seat3: shows [4c 3c] (a flush, Jack high)
TopSetMiner: shows [6h 6d] (a full house, Sixes full of Deuces)
TopSetMiner collected $67.80 from pot

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You mis-apply. Fish.

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This is an interesting hand to look at more closely.

I think a call is incorrect here but close. It's $20 to win $50 so you are getting 2.5 to 1 on your money. Let's look at the villain's range for pushing the river:

{22, JJ, 34}

So you lose to 66% of them. This makes the call mathematically incorrect. But ... I read in a book that there is always like a 10% chance that the villain is bluffing, so you have to factor that in.

It's easy to say "call" after seeing the results, but that's just being results oriented IMO.

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I think this is an easy fold, because you still haven't factored in the times when villain has rolled up jacks. Or if he's really fishy, rolled up 5s.

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Is anyone else getting frustrated trying to apply this method? I've been mining for top set all day and haven't hit one yet. This is getting tough on my bankroll.

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just be patient

[good_gamble]

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This is an interesting hand to look at more closely.

I think a call is incorrect here but close. It's $20 to win $50 so you are getting 2.5 to 1 on your money. Let's look at the villain's range for pushing the river:

{22, JJ, 34}

So you lose to 66% of them. This makes the call mathematically incorrect. But ... I read in a book that there is always like a 10% chance that the villain is bluffing, so you have to factor that in.

It's easy to say "call" after seeing the results, but that's just being results oriented IMO.


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Awesome