ESPN sets new standard for premature analysis. Talk of undefeated NE

[Kneel B4 Zod]

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KBZ:

c'mon. are you saying that bill belichick is the only coach who takes it one game at a time? the definition of trap game was rather narrow, too.

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no, many good teams do. but I do think some teams would be more prone to taking a week off than others. I think it's mainly a function of leadership.

I do agree that the trap game definition was too narrow.

[capone0]

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Sun 9/9 at NY Jets W 38-14
Sun 9/16 San Diego W 38-14
Sun 9/23 Buffalo 1:00 pm
Mon 10/1 at Cincinnati 8:30 pm
Sun 10/7 Cleveland 1:00 pm
Sun 10/14 at Dallas 4:15 pm
Sun 10/21 at Miami 1:00 pm
Sun 10/28 Washington 4:15 pm
Sun 11/4 at Indianapolis 4:15 pm
bye
Sun 11/18 at Buffalo 1:00 pm
Sun 11/25 Philadelphia 8:15 pm
Mon 12/3 at Baltimore 8:30 pm
Sun 12/9 Pittsburgh 1:00 pm
Sun 12/16 NY Jets 1:00 pm
Sun 12/23 Miami 1:00 pm
Sat 12/29 at NY Giants 8:15 pm


If they go undefeated then they're the best team of all time imho.

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away games @ Cinci, Baltimore, Indy, Dallas, and the NYJ
home games vs San Diego and Pittsburgh, plus Philly and Washington

I think 15-1 or maybe 14-2, combined with a SB win, would make this team the best ever.

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Maybe the best Pats team ever but who knows if they'll be the best team ever. I doubt ever game will be an utter beatdown and their loss or losses if they have one will be judged. Week 3 and even a 14-2 season won't be the only parameters to decide if they are the best of all time. I also think deciding the best of all time and comparing eras is stupid.

[Kneel B4 Zod]

ur right, my comment was too simplified. carry on!

[TheNoodleMan]

I just want to say that I think "midseason form" is nonsense.

Combined week 1-4 record of of the teams that went on to conference championship games:

2006: 14-2
2005: 10-6
2004: 15-1
2003: 12-4
2002: 11-5

[TheNoodleMan]

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away games @ Cinci, Baltimore, Indy, Dallas, and the NYJ

Any particular reason you included the Jets here? I agreed with most of your analysis but this is f'ed up! I'd bet my pokerstars BR that the Patriots go in to NY and administer a serious beat down.

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you mean, like the beatdown they gave in New York last year [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] ?

the NYJ made the playoffs last year, and though they aren't a great team, road games against decent divisional opponents are far from gimmes. exhibit A would be NYJ 17, NE 14 last year.

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I think he means that New England already won at the Meadowlands week one.

[capone0]

Some of the games they've already played have to be taken with a grain of salt. Yes SD is talented BUT they changed coaches. Norv sucks as a HC. Jets played well last year but they were worse then their record. They had an easy schedule. This year it will be tougher. I really like some of their players but I don't think they are that good.

I will say, the Pats have looked impressive so far, but so have the Colts teams of 2 years ago and the 15-1 Pittsburg team a couple of years ago. Neither team won the SB.

[Kneel B4 Zod]

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I just want to say that I think "midseason form" is nonsense.

Combined week 1-4 record of of the teams that went on to conference championship games:

2006: 14-2
2005: 10-6
2004: 15-1
2003: 12-4
2002: 11-5

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wrt to the 2003 Patriots, it's really not nonsense. if you recall, team leader Lawyer Milloy was released in the week leading up game 1, vs. the Bills, who happened to pick him up. it was a huge shock to the team, and they definetily did not react well. they lost that game 31-0!!

[ozyman]

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away games @ Cinci, Baltimore, Indy, Dallas, and the NYJ

Any particular reason you included the Jets here? I agreed with most of your analysis but this is f'ed up! I'd bet my pokerstars BR that the Patriots go in to NY and administer a serious beat down.

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you mean, like the beatdown they gave in New York last year [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] ?

the NYJ made the playoffs last year, and though they aren't a great team, road games against decent divisional opponents are far from gimmes. exhibit A would be NYJ 17, NE 14 last year.

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His point was that they already won @NYJ this year.

[Kneel B4 Zod]

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away games @ Cinci, Baltimore, Indy, Dallas, and the NYJ

Any particular reason you included the Jets here? I agreed with most of your analysis but this is f'ed up! I'd bet my pokerstars BR that the Patriots go in to NY and administer a serious beat down.

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you mean, like the beatdown they gave in New York last year [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] ?

the NYJ made the playoffs last year, and though they aren't a great team, road games against decent divisional opponents are far from gimmes. exhibit A would be NYJ 17, NE 14 last year.

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I think he means that New England already won at the Meadowlands week one.

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I dont think so, otherwise he would have picked out the San Diego game as well, which I included.

[Gregatron]

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The 2003 Pats went 14-2. They lost to the 6-10 Bills and the 5-11 Redskins.

The 2004 Pats went 14-2. They lost to the 15-1 Steelers and the 4-12 Dolphins.

Its not just the good teams that they have to worry about. They are very likely to slip up and blow a game to a crappy team along the way.

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I would think a forum full of poker players would understand this better. If they have a 90% chance to win each game, well that's about an 18.5% chance to do undefeated during the regular season. That is over 16 games. (22.9% over the remaining 14 games.)