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Old 12-30-2005, 04:44 AM
jmillerdls jmillerdls is offline
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Default Re: Preliminary Kill Phil Comments

umm, no...and no
This book has nothing to do with, and no use in cash games.
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Old 12-30-2005, 08:41 AM
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It's a tournament strategy book...not an NL strategy book.
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Old 12-30-2005, 12:51 PM
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What about ring games where the blinds stay level? Will the Kill Phil still work?


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No.

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Is this book going to become the Small Stakes Hold'em of No Limit?

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No.


To answer both questions, Kill Phil is a strategy to avoid post flop play when you don't play as well as your opponents.
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Old 12-30-2005, 01:31 PM
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Actually it's a No Limit Tournament strategy book giving beginners an almost even chance to compete against more skilled players playing a "normal" strategy.

It is also similar to Ed Millers Short Stacked NL cash game strategy in the sense that it avoids the skill demanding post flop game.
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Old 12-30-2005, 01:34 PM
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giving beginners an almost even chance to compete against more skilled players

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What is your basis for that unfounded statistic???
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Old 12-30-2005, 01:38 PM
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Actually it's a No Limit Tournament strategy book giving beginners an almost even chance to compete against more skilled players playing a "normal" strategy.

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I don't think this book will give a beginner an "almost even" chance against skilled players. Matter of fact, I'm positive it won't.
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:11 PM
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Actually it's a No Limit Tournament strategy book giving beginners an almost even chance to compete against more skilled players playing a "normal" strategy.

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I don't think this book will give a beginner an "almost even" chance against skilled players. Matter of fact, I'm positive it won't.

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How about starting by quoting me right...
But let me guess, You have not read the book, so how can you be so positive?
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:17 PM
Kicker1 Kicker1 is offline
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giving beginners an almost even chance to compete against more skilled players

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What is your basis for that unfounded statistic???

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Nothing more than that is what I interpeted from the book when I read it.
I was not aware that I was stating any statistic though, but then again, I am danish reading a book in english.
I could have misunderstood something.

Wow, nice welcome...
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: Preliminary Kill Phil Comments

Hey there, and welcome....

Some of the people on here will nit pick everything people say or write. Most of the time don't worry about them they are usually one of three types....

1) People who suck at poker and are being jerks (ignore them)

2) People who are just jerks (ignore them)

or

3) People who are really good at poker, have been around for years, and don't put more than the absolute minimum in their posts, so they can come off harsh at times (listen to these people, and have a thick skin).

The challenges is figuring out who is being harsh and who is being a jerk, and that comes from time spent reading posts. When someone is good, but harsh, take their question and try to answer it....

Margon
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Old 12-30-2005, 03:42 PM
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Lol ... don't mind them, it is a nice place to be this forum

Problem is, that the above posters quickly state, that the Kill Phil approach is useless in ringgames without stating why ... which makes one smile, but is useless

Question is if Kill Phil can translate into some kind of short stack theory like fx the one formulated by Ed Miller or if it simply only draws its strenght from the fact, that tourney players are afraid to be knocked out of tourneys and therefore fold often (Which is what Sklanskys system that inspired Kill Phil used as a foundation)

If Kill Phill can't be used directely in ringgames, second question is, if it can be modified in a way, so that it can be applies to ringgames with a positive EV ??

It is annoying that this book is sold out ... will have to wait forever to get it here in Denmark (It does not make much sense to order from the US .. it takes forever, and then add a week more as it is held back and VAT is added, so just like with HOH2 there is nothing but waiting untill amazon.co.uk has it in stock )


Welcome to the forums btw kicker1 (and by the way, if all else fails learn to play Stud, friendly people studplayers) [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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