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Old 03-21-2007, 07:32 PM
10K-in-Clay 10K-in-Clay is offline
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Default Re: More than 1st chop

I definately don't think its unethical, if they agree to a deal then theres nothing unethical about it. Some of you may think its sleezy to take more than first place money but thats your opinion but IMO if they agree it can't be unethical. Personally I don't think its sleezy to take more than first place money either as long as u don't go about it in a deceptive way as stated above.
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Old 03-21-2007, 08:04 PM
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If the other players like the money they are getting, understand that your getting more then 1st, it might actually be TOO ethical
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Old 03-21-2007, 09:42 PM
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This is just like when stealth won the $500.

If your moron opponents are morons, then they will get a deal worthy of a moron.

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Did you miss stealth's post?

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i didnt read replies
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Old 03-21-2007, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: More than 1st chop

i woulda gotten more than first or just beat them into pulp
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Old 03-21-2007, 11:13 PM
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My view is that negotiating the chop is part of the skill set of a tournament player. If you are better at it than the others, that's their problem.

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I have no problem with people negotiating a better deal than a chip chop would give them or an ICM or whatever 'fair' method you're using to determine the deal. For whatever reason I don't feel chopping for more than first is right. I'm just wondering if I'm crazy for feeling this way or what the general conscience is.

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Think of it this way:

As a poker player, it's YOUR JOB to exploit your opponents weaknesses, errors and stupidity.
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Old 03-21-2007, 11:15 PM
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it's ok and not close
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Old 03-22-2007, 12:03 PM
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badger most of these concepts were talked about in that thread about the guy who was HU in a FPP sat and was shorter stack and took the package and gave other guy 2k.
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Old 03-22-2007, 12:58 PM
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I somewhat disagree because at this point in the tournament players are under a lot of pressure and often in a once in a lifetime situation. I think introducing the new game at this point is unfair to inexperienced players.


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Playing for that much money at final table is a new game for inexperienced players.

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Not really...?

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I think so. Look, say I'm natural at poker, great hand reading and maths skills and, through this, I have a healthy ROI. This is one game. Now, one fine day, I make the FT of the Million. The skill set totally changes as the pressure increases. I lose the ability to take the best line, because I'm worried about what I might lose, and a more experienced player will be able to take advantage of this. This is another game.

In the same way that a more experienced player would be able to take advantage during deal making. I just don't see what's unethical about this.

In the case of the Million (and we can dream), I would definitely be playing hardball, not because I have a skill edge but simply because only first place money is life-changing for me - the rest is just a lot of money.

All of this said, I think that it's stupid that deal-making is allowed but as it is, it is.
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