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Old 06-03-2007, 03:12 PM
ASPoker8 ASPoker8 is offline
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: JUNE 2007 (nc)

I think I am switching Pokerstars names.

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Old 06-03-2007, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: JUNE 2007 (nc)

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WTF why do I run so bad at 200NL (this played fine as well? Villain was 11/9/2 over 35 hands)


<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($16) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $10.00</font>, BB calls $10.00


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probably cause you want to bet the flop strong enough to fold Ace high + 2 overs + BDFD

this is a super duper wet, coordinated flop, that almost never has hit you, so villain will view your weak cbet as a sign of weakness, my usualy cbet would be $14..... basically pretend you have an overpair and act like it

he still may not always fold, but i think the $4 makes a diff.... when i see a villain bet weak on a flop he should be betting strong i will often float or rr or do something (then make a note about how he responds)
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Old 06-03-2007, 03:15 PM
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Sometimes I raise for value and I don't even know it.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $643.65
<font color="black">BB: $564.40</font>
UTG: $2,321.65
MP: $155.00
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $1,490.30</font>
BTN: $701.30

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $18.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($51) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $36.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $96.00</font>, Hero calls $60.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($243) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $138.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $444.00</font>, BB calls all-in for $306.40, Hero calls $0.40

<font color="black">River:</font> ($1131.80) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $1,131.80

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neither do we wen u leave out results
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Old 06-03-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: JUNE 2007 (nc)

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WTF why do I run so bad at 200NL (this played fine as well? Villain was 11/9/2 over 35 hands)


<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($16) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $10.00</font>, BB calls $10.00


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probably cause you want to bet the flop strong enough to fold Ace high + 2 overs + BDFD

this is a super duper wet, coordinated flop, that almost never has hit you, so villain will view your weak cbet as a sign of weakness, my usualy cbet would be $14..... basically pretend you have an overpair and act like it

he still may not always fold, but i think the $4 makes a diff.... when i see a villain bet weak on a flop he should be betting strong i will often float or rr or do something (then make a note about how he responds)

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I usually bet $5 into $7.50 pots at 100NL. The pot was actually $15 on the flop so I bet 2/3 pot.
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Old 06-03-2007, 03:18 PM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: JUNE 2007 (nc)

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Sometimes I raise for value and I don't even know it.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $643.65
<font color="black">BB: $564.40</font>
UTG: $2,321.65
MP: $155.00
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $1,490.30</font>
BTN: $701.30

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $18.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($51) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $36.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $96.00</font>, Hero calls $60.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($243) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $138.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $444.00</font>, BB calls all-in for $306.40, Hero calls $0.40

<font color="black">River:</font> ($1131.80) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $1,131.80

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neither do we wen u leave out results

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Ooooops, my bad.

BB had 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and LOST (-$564.40)
Hero had 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pairs, Queens and Fives) and WON (+$564.40)
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Old 06-03-2007, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: JUNE 2007 (nc)

will, that conversation restores my faith in humanity
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Old 06-03-2007, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: JUNE 2007 (nc)

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[ QUOTE ]
WTF why do I run so bad at 200NL (this played fine as well? Villain was 11/9/2 over 35 hands)


<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($16) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $10.00</font>, BB calls $10.00


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probably cause you want to bet the flop strong enough to fold Ace high + 2 overs + BDFD

this is a super duper wet, coordinated flop, that almost never has hit you, so villain will view your weak cbet as a sign of weakness, my usualy cbet would be $14..... basically pretend you have an overpair and act like it

he still may not always fold, but i think the $4 makes a diff.... when i see a villain bet weak on a flop he should be betting strong i will often float or rr or do something (then make a note about how he responds)

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I usually bet $5 into $7.50 pots at 100NL. The pot was actually $15 on the flop so I bet 2/3 pot.

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i guess i just cbet big.. i'd bet 6 or 6.5 in a 7.5 pot, and i'bet 14 into a 15 pot if it's juicy.... 11 if it's paired, 13 if it's like A72r

all i'm sayinig is if i'm villain, i float you or raise you w/ overcards just because of your bet size - (which means i get myself into problems when villains weak cbet tp on juicy flops)
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Old 06-03-2007, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: JUNE 2007 (nc)

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Sometimes I raise for value and I don't even know it.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $643.65
<font color="black">BB: $564.40</font>
UTG: $2,321.65
MP: $155.00
<font color="black">Hero (CO): $1,490.30</font>
BTN: $701.30

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $18.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($51) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $36.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $96.00</font>, Hero calls $60.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($243) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $138.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $444.00</font>, BB calls all-in for $306.40, Hero calls $0.40

<font color="black">River:</font> ($1131.80) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $1,131.80

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Sometimes you play incredibly bad and still win a ton of money? WTF!
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Old 06-03-2007, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: JUNE 2007 (nc)

LOL who wants to join me in sitting at 200/400 and preaching the the masses
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Old 06-03-2007, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: SSNL [cheese] thread: JUNE 2007 (nc)

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Oh yes. Do I have to put my stack in here?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $198.00
BB: $247.30
UTG: $134.80
MP: $170.75
CO: $200.00
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $214.45</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $41.00</font>, Hero calls $17.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($85) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $42.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $173.45</font>, UTG calls all-in for $51.80
Uncalled bet of $79.65 returned to Hero
Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to UTG

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($272.60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

<font color="black">River:</font> ($272.60) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $272.60 ($3 Rake)

UTG had K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$134.80)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Queens) and WON (+$134.80)

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sciolist if you're calling the min4bet just to fold on an a or q hi flop you would probably want to fold it preflop (which isnt a bad idea), so yea you gotatataaaaa stack off there
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