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[Colm]

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i will admit variance, to the amount that the world class boxer would win a few times in a hundred. the rest of them would get a time in 10,000.

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Right, the boxer would win a few times out of a hundred, and a deadly military man who has killed with his bare hands before would win roughly once per 10,000 times. Logic at its finest.

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plenty of pussies have killed with their bare hands. to think a military guy who occasionally trains in hand to hand could have a chance against an elite athlete who trains in it 4hrs+ a day makes you either 100% idiot, or 100% troll.

[restrikt]

Anyone who does not think the UFC/Mixed Martial Arts fighter will win easily, does NOT know ANYTHING about fighting.

Fedor will murder anyone easily.

[StregaChess]

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clueless. yeah, these guys that do kata all day are really preparing themselves for a situation against a trained resisting attacker.

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Who does kata's all day, you really don't have a clue as to how people train. Really really stupid statement dude..

[BradleyT]

The martial arts person would win because that person is Chuck Norris.

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The martial arts person would win because that person is BRUCE LEE.

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Seriously where is the love for Bruce...The guy would wipe the floor with fedor if they were both in top shape. You couldn't hit Bruce, he'd be there and if you tried to hit him, you'd likely miss and get hit much worse. His reflexes + strength = unbeatable imo...People will harp about the weight difference but he was adept at weight training up to the point where any additional weight training wouldn't benefit him (this is important). Bruce's slender appearance was deceiving but it was ideal considering he was very unlikely to ever be cleanly hit (could retreat/counter ANYONE). I guess those who chose UFC fighter will probably say once the fight goes to the ground Bruce would be in a world of hurt but they would just be underestimating the power of JKD. The artless form incorporated all aspects of martial art, including grappling.

[Tardi]

Bruce Lee was one of the first real mixed martial artists, and all respect to him there. But saying Bruce would destroy or even win against the best of the date with the sport being evolved to what it's now, and especially Fedor being much bigger and stronger it would be only a matter of time until Bruce got caught and even though he practiced grappling he wouldn't be anywhere close to Fedor's abilities who has very strong judo and sambo background.

Bruce Lee against any of the best MMA-fighters of his own weightclass would be much more interesting though.

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The martial arts person would win because that person is BRUCE LEE.

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Seriously where is the love for Bruce...The guy would wipe the floor with fedor if they were both in top shape. You couldn't hit Bruce, he'd be there and if you tried to hit him, you'd likely miss and get hit much worse. His reflexes + strength = unbeatable imo...People will harp about the weight difference but he was adept at weight training up to the point where any additional weight training wouldn't benefit him (this is important). Bruce's slender appearance was deceiving but it was ideal considering he was very unlikely to ever be cleanly hit (could retreat/counter ANYONE). I guess those who chose UFC fighter will probably say once the fight goes to the ground Bruce would be in a world of hurt but they would just be underestimating the power of JKD. The artless form incorporated all aspects of martial art, including grappling.

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[Colm]

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The martial arts person would win because that person is BRUCE LEE.

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Seriously where is the love for Bruce...The guy would wipe the floor with fedor if they were both in top shape. You couldn't hit Bruce, he'd be there and if you tried to hit him, you'd likely miss and get hit much worse. His reflexes + strength = unbeatable imo...People will harp about the weight difference but he was adept at weight training up to the point where any additional weight training wouldn't benefit him (this is important). Bruce's slender appearance was deceiving but it was ideal considering he was very unlikely to ever be cleanly hit (could retreat/counter ANYONE). I guess those who chose UFC fighter will probably say once the fight goes to the ground Bruce would be in a world of hurt but they would just be underestimating the power of JKD. The artless form incorporated all aspects of martial art, including grappling.

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i believe i've already covered this earlier in this thread, if not this one then the other one, but bruce lee would get schooled by even and average boxer in his weight class. if you don't understand this you do not understand the vast superiority boxing has over any traditional martial arts as a striking art. he never spent any large amount of time training with boxers/thai boxers/grapplers. although he had a cursory introduction to grappling, he would not be able to handle even a strong high school wrestler of the same weight. while his theory of using what works for you is still true to this day, he never really found out what that was because of all of his wasted time on kung fu. had he ever spent any real period of time sparring with divison 1 wrestlers, professional boxers or thai boxers, or olympic judoka, perhaps he would have developed some real fighting skill. the guy was an actor, and a great martial arts theorist, but he never actually never made any great practical advances in his own fighting.


on the other hand- chuck norris has actually been training bjj with the machado's for over 10 years i believe, and has actually earned his bjj black belt. chuck norris is therefore a legit badass.

[John Kilduff]

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The martial arts person would win because that person is BRUCE LEE.

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Seriously where is the love for Bruce...The guy would wipe the floor with fedor if they were both in top shape. You couldn't hit Bruce, he'd be there and if you tried to hit him, you'd likely miss and get hit much worse. His reflexes + strength = unbeatable imo...People will harp about the weight difference but he was adept at weight training up to the point where any additional weight training wouldn't benefit him (this is important). Bruce's slender appearance was deceiving but it was ideal considering he was very unlikely to ever be cleanly hit (could retreat/counter ANYONE). I guess those who chose UFC fighter will probably say once the fight goes to the ground Bruce would be in a world of hurt but they would just be underestimating the power of JKD. The artless form incorporated all aspects of martial art, including grappling.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!

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i believe i've already covered this earlier in this thread, if not this one then the other one, but bruce lee would get schooled by even and average boxer in his weight class. if you don't understand this you do not understand the vast superiority boxing has over any traditional martial arts as a striking art. he never spent any large amount of time training with boxers/thai boxers/grapplers. although he had a cursory introduction to grappling, he would not be able to handle even a strong high school wrestler of the same weight. while his theory of using what works for you is still true to this day, he never really found out what that was because of all of his wasted time on kung fu. had he ever spent any real period of time sparring with divison 1 wrestlers, professional boxers or thai boxers, or olympic judoka, perhaps he would have developed some real fighting skill. the guy was an actor, and a great martial arts theorist, but he never actually never made any great practical advances in his own fighting.


on the other hand- chuck norris has actually been training bjj with the machado's for over 10 years i believe, and has actually earned his bjj black belt. chuck norris is therefore a legit badass.

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Ridiculous; Bruce Lee against a Chuck Norris clone adjusted to equivalent weights = Bruce Lee rollover.

[Colm]

rubbish, by all insider accounts, bruce lee couldn't handle chuck norris in their primes even in lame karate/kung fu sparring, a 40 or 50 year old bjj black belt chuck norris would easily take down a prime bruce lee and choke him out. it is simply that easy to do against someone with no takedown defence. this is much easier to understand when you've actually felt it on the giving and receiving side. yes, even a 50 year old chuck norris would easily take out a prime bruce lee, and based only on chuck's bjj skill.