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Old 09-25-2007, 12:28 AM
TruFloridaGator TruFloridaGator is offline
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Default Re: **2007 AFC South Thread**

Good stuff. I wouldn't say the Jags refused to throw the ball though, it was close to 50/50 if you count the plays Garrard ran on passing plays. Also, there was about 7 runs inside the 2 yard line lol. I think they took a good step forward in the passing game just got to get more consistent overall.
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:22 AM
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Is it to early to say that the AFC South is the best division in football?
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:34 AM
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Week 4 in Preview:

HOU @ ATL
OVERVIEW: Whew, just what the doctor ordered. For the Texans, this should be like a bye week with the added bonus of getting to build some momentum. Since it's likely HOU can beat the Falcons without WR Andre Johnson, there seems little reason to rush him back this week. He'll be able to heal up while watching his team beat up on a team that's going nowhere in a hurry. This will give us a chance to see if the Texans are for real, as this is a game they clearly should win.
LOCATION: The game is in ATL, but given the mess the Falcons' franchise is in, that shouldn't matter.

HOU-27 ATL-10

DEN @ IND
OVERVIEW: Well here it is. For the past 5 years, DEN has built it's team seemingly for one reason: to beat the Colts. "Peyton beat us for 400 yards? Draft more CBs" "What? He did it again, trade for more CBs" etc etc. It finally seems to be working however, and DEN is giving up an NFL-best ~88 Passing yards/game. This game hasn't been hyped up very much but this may really be an early season "Unstoppable force v. Immovable object" game. Everyone is aware of what Peyton and Co. can do, but now we'll get to see if a Defense taylor made to stop them can put up a fight.
LOCATION: I can't think of one team in the NFL that wants to play in the Dome in Indy. To say nothing of the crowd noise, the carpet might give the edge to the Colts receivers despite the skill of the DEN corners.

IND-31 DEN-21

JAX-Bye
TEN-Bye

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Old 09-26-2007, 09:03 AM
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the carpet might give the edge to the Colts receivers despite the skill of the DEN corners.

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The dome has field turf. Get with the times man. The old school carpet that gave advantages to teams that were used to it is a thing of the past.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:22 AM
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the carpet might give the edge to the Colts receivers despite the skill of the DEN corners.

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The dome has field turf. Get with the times man. The old school carpet that gave advantages to teams that were used to it is a thing of the past.

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I'm familiar with the Fieldturf (hell most HSs around us have it, ex. Center Grove) but I was under the impression that it's rubber base gave better grip then did natural grass.

Cody
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:28 AM
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the carpet might give the edge to the Colts receivers despite the skill of the DEN corners.

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The dome has field turf. Get with the times man. The old school carpet that gave advantages to teams that were used to it is a thing of the past.

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I'm familiar with the Fieldturf (hell most HSs around us have it, ex. Center Grove) but I was under the impression that it's rubber base gave better grip then did natural grass.

Cody

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that's true. but lots of teams have Field Turf now, even outdoor teams (like the Pats for instance)

edit, I found the list in a related ranking list. here it is. where it's blank they have grass

1 Tampa Bay
2 Seattle (FieldTurf)
3 Carolina
4 Detroit (FieldTurf)
5 Baltimore (Sportexe)
6 Arizona
7 Atlanta (FieldTurf)
8 Jacksonville
9 Indianapolis (FieldTurf)
10 San Diego
11 St. Louis (FieldTurf)
12 Denver
13 Washington
14 Cincinnati (FieldTurf)
15 Houston
16 New York Giants/Jets (FieldTurf)
17 San Francisco
18 Green Bay
19 New Orleans (Sportexe)
20 Miami
21 Tennessee
22 Dallas (RealGrass)
23 Philadelphia
24 Minnesota (FieldTurf)
25 Buffalo (Astroplay)
26 Kansas City
27 Chicago
28 Cleveland
29 Pittsburgh
30 New England (Before FieldTurf)
31 Oakland Raiders

double edit: Denver still has grass, as do all of their divisional opponents, so yeah that is an adjustment for them to make
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:37 AM
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the carpet might give the edge to the Colts receivers despite the skill of the DEN corners.

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The dome has field turf. Get with the times man. The old school carpet that gave advantages to teams that were used to it is a thing of the past.

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I'm familiar with the Fieldturf (hell most HSs around us have it, ex. Center Grove) but I was under the impression that it's rubber base gave better grip then did natural grass.

Cody

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It might be slightly better for footing but the big factor in the old school astoturf/natural grass adjustment was that players wore completely different shoes for the artifical surface. I'm pretty sure that guys are wearing the same shoes on field turf that whey would be wearing on a decent grass field in good weather.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:40 AM
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the carpet might give the edge to the Colts receivers despite the skill of the DEN corners.

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The dome has field turf. Get with the times man. The old school carpet that gave advantages to teams that were used to it is a thing of the past.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm familiar with the Fieldturf (hell most HSs around us have it, ex. Center Grove) but I was under the impression that it's rubber base gave better grip then did natural grass.

Cody

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It might be slightly better for footing but the big factor in the old school astoturf/natural grass adjustment was that players wore completely different shoes for the artifical surface. I'm pretty sure that guys are wearing the same shoes on field turf that whey would be wearing on a decent grass field in good weather.

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This is correct, they wear the same cleats. The only difference is that when you play on field turf you change from metal screwins to 100% plastic. Though some people do choose to wear molded cleats.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:42 AM
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Denver still has grass, as do all of their divisional opponents

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Lets not forget the dirt infield in Oakland, the last relic of a bygone era.
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:21 PM
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A good column by Vic. Mostly about the Jags but the last 3 or 4 points talk about the division and he gives a lot of props to the other teams in the division.

Vic's 9/26 column

Just a note: I know some of you question Vic's bias(:eh hem: TNM :eh hem, his "ask" columns tend to be more of a forum like approach and sometimes bias and comedy find their ways into it(he is mostly talking to Jags fan there). But, his columns are his true work and they are usually great reads. He did see some great football during those years in Pittsburgh.
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