AP infinity plus one - New AP Statement

[ALL1N]

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Finally, just got my money back, ended being ~40k. This is approx a months work for me and is greatly appreciated

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Necessary?

[CutCreator]

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Seriously though...does anyone else think that that convo seems fabricated?

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yes

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yes. very much so.

[LuckyMux]

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Finally, just got my money back, ended being ~40k. This is approx a months work for me and is greatly appreciated

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Necessary?

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I doubt he meant to embarrass himself. I earn that every four hours.

Unless I'm awake, of course.

[adanthar]

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I know you reckon that's because of him knowing which frat-boy families are living off something the US Govt doesn't particularly approve of, but I really don't think he'd betray any of that. These are old friends.

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AJ Green isn't from the Montana frat to my knowledge - he's some nine.com guy who worked in the same building and wound up friends with Tom. Am I wrong?

[ikestoys]

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Finally, just got my money back, ended being ~40k. This is approx a months work for me and is greatly appreciated

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Necessary?

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well, i guess not, but it felt weird just saying just 40k, was adding something that made it more personal. Feel free to be offended

[RagzMaster]

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ikes- glad you got your money back. On that Absolute seems to be doing the right thing right now.

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Well considering they are guilty of ripping off hundreds of people for millions of dollars, and having their faces(along with their families faces) spread accross the interweb, I think this is the minimum they can do. People have been killed for a lot less then 7 million, and that's a bet I'm sure even Potripper would fold to.

[Josem]

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ikes- glad you got your money back. On that Absolute seems to be doing the right thing right now.

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Well considering they are guilty of ripping off hundreds of people for millions of dollars,

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The PT stats seem to show $700,000 or so.

The "millions of dollars" figure comes from the quite 'speculatory' article that was posted online that provided no source.

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People have been killed for a lot less then 7 million, and that's a bet I'm sure even Potripper would fold to.

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The $7million figure does not appear to have much publicly available factual basis.

[bicyclekick]

hmnmm i haven't gotten money yet and I even played graycat HU. Maybe they haven't finished making payments yet?

anyone else who lost money to these guys not get paid yet?

[Rx~]

this is from news, views, and gossip doesnt seem like anyone has given it any attention if so i apologize

"Absolute Poker takes all allegations of player fraud and collusion extremely seriously. Fair play and security are of paramount importance to us. Our Security and Fraud Department is dedicated to ensuring that everyone on the site has a fair opportunity to win, and that no improper methods, devices, programs and/or other unfair advantages are ever utilized in our games.

We were greatly concerned by a recent thread on the 2+2 forums along with emails and other communications we received, regarding alleged player fraud. We thank the vigilant players who reported this matter to us giving us an opportunity to investigate these serious allegations.
We spent extensive resources thoroughly investigating and analyzing our players’ claims. While our investigation is ongoing, we feel that we have enough information at this point to share with you some of our findings. Please be advised, that we will continue to investigate each and every claim of wrongdoing on an individual basis and we will report any further significant findings that are appropriate for public review. Also, please keep in mind, while we endeavor to provide as much information as possible on a public level, we take our players’ privacy issues very seriously, and will never compromise this.

As a matter of Company policy, Absolute Poker never divulges personal information about our players nor do we make public any hand information that did not go to a showdown, ever. As a result, we are limited in terms of the level of information that we will share for public review.

In response to the allegations, we froze the accounts of the players in question while we performed an extensive investigation. The result of our investigation is that we found no evidence that any of Absolute Poker’s redundant and varying levels of game client security were compromised. In other words, it is impossible for any player or employee to see hole cards as was alleged. There is no part of the technology that allows for a “super user” account, and no way for any person to influence the game software to their advantage.

We base this finding on a thorough security check on a technology level coupled with a thorough investigation of hand histories including those that did not go to a showdown. As a part of our investigation, we also tested the integrity of our certified random number generator (“RNG”.) We determined that our RNG was not compromised either.

Details of the investigation We combed through all hands involving the accounts that were mentioned in the online forum. Please note that only a select number of hands were featured in the thread. Our ongoing investigation continues to show that there were countless instances where a somewhat unorthodox poker strategy resulted in a loss. Allegations that the player accounts at issue “always guessed right” are unfounded. We examined screen shots from Poker Tracker Software that displayed an “infinite” river aggression factor for one of the player accounts at issue. We examined similar screen shots, which showed a lower but still relatively high river aggression factor. We were very concerned by this anomaly. Accordingly, we reviewed each and every hand that this player played during the relevant time and determined that while the play was extremely aggressive, particularly on the river, there were several instances where the player merely called on the river. Thus, the allegation that the player accounts at issue “never called on the river, they either raised or folded” are also without merit.

With respect to the allegation of chip dumping, we have determined that chip dumping by at least one of the accounts at issue, did in fact, take place. We have determined that the chip dumping was made to several seemingly unrelated accounts. We are continuing to investigate this issue.

Conclusion A 'super user' account does not exist in our software. Absolute Poker was created by poker players who value security and fair play. The back-end of the Absolute Poker software prevents the possibility of any such feature. Our game client only receives data regarding an individual’s hand and no other player hole cards are ever visible – by anyone – except in the event of a showdown. Having said that, we will continue this investigation as well as look into any other allegations of wrongdoing. If appropriate, we will freeze funds and reimburse effected players.

Absolute Poker remains a 100% secure place to play. We value all of our players and we will continue to provide our community with a safe, secure, and exciting online poker experience.

The Absolute Poker Management"

[ikestoys]

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Finally, just got my money back, ended being ~40k. This is approx a months work for me and is greatly appreciated

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Necessary?

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well, i guess not, but it felt weird just saying just 40k, was adding something that made it more personal. Feel free to be offended

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To further my thought:
I dunno, I thought the bigger point was that I lost what I normally make in a month in one night with doubledrag... Anyone who knows me on this forum knows me as a SSNL poster and longtime SSNL player who shot up really quickly and recently. That night really shook my confidence as a player. I'm not trying to say I'm better than anyone, just that it was a really bad night that has been made right b/c of ad, nat, josem and snaggle...

flame away