Official "it's not too early to start talking about Fantasy Football" - Page 42

chaseUdown · #**411** 08-13-2007, 02:50 PM

"should I trade the #4 pick (I don't like LJ) for #15, #26, and a 7th rounder?"

I would do this anyway. Having 5 picks in the top 33 is awesome.

LBJ · #**412** 08-13-2007, 02:57 PM

Combining the two trades, it would essentially be:

#8 for #15, #26, 9th rounder.

It does sound good on the outside, but I question whether I will be able to get good enough RB's at #12 and #15. Or if I shoud take RB at #12 WR at #15 and hope another good RB falls to me in the 3rd...

SuperUberBob · #**413** 08-13-2007, 03:53 PM

I just had a Yahoo! public draft. Default scoring system. I picked 4th overall out of 10 teams.

1. Frank Gore RB
2. Maurice Jones-Drew RB
3. Chad Johnson WR
4. Javon Walker WR
5. Donald Driver WR
6. Jon Kitna QB
7. Chris Cooley TE
8. Deuce McAllister RB
9. Mark Clayton WR
10. Jay Cutler QB
11. Carolina DEF
12. Jerious Norwood RB
13. Neil Rackers K
14. Minnesota DEF
15. Owen Daniels TE

Spellmen · #**414** 08-13-2007, 05:19 PM

I don't like it. This isn't like the NFL where you can recoup that missed first round pick when those second rounders develop over years. I think you'll be really hurting without a top back. Take whoever is available with Gore, Addai, and Alexander. LJ isn't currently who you should be taking with the 4th pick anyway

Spellmen · #**415** 08-13-2007, 05:21 PM

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I just had a Yahoo! public draft. Default scoring system. I picked 4th overall out of 10 teams.

1. Frank Gore RB
2. Maurice Jones-Drew RB
3. Chad Johnson WR
4. Javon Walker WR
5. Donald Driver WR
6. Jon Kitna QB
7. Chris Cooley TE
8. Deuce McAllister RB
9. Mark Clayton WR
10. Jay Cutler QB
11. Carolina DEF
12. Jerious Norwood RB
13. Neil Rackers K
14. Minnesota DEF
15. Owen Daniels TE

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I think you did fine. You might have been able to get a better backup WR or RB where you got Cooley, and then snagged him or someone comparable in the next round, but it's not bad. The Daniels pick is a waste, you don't need a backup TE. Go for value with a RB or WR, or take a flier on someone like Michael Bush or Bowe from KC

vixticator · #**416** 08-13-2007, 06:09 PM

I obsessed with mock drafting at fantasyfootballcalculator.

vixticator · #**417** 08-13-2007, 07:35 PM

Alright, I've done about 4 mocks in various league setups and have concluded the following:
[*]Vincent Jackson was a sleeper in keeper drafts last year, he is overvalued in every format this season. Look at players like Patrick Crayton later for a real sleeper. If you get points for KR yards, Ted Ginn seems like a worthy gamble late--he could easily wind up with a good amount of receptions too, Chambers + Booker are awful.
[*]Travis Henry is seriously overvalued. Just take Mike Bell super late and profit. The Bills let Henry walk for a college stud coming off a major injury. He battled injuries for a few years and won job in Tennessee by default. Then they let him go because they realize a lot of it is just rub off from VY. Mike Bell is fresh and had a very good rookie season, zero fumbles. He'll get carries.
[*]lol @ Calvin Johnson in 4/5th round.
[*]Lee Evans is way better than Randy Moss, Colston, Walker, Roy Williams, etc.
[*]I'm not big on Brandon Jacobs in "real" football but me thinks his fantasy value especially in touchdown heavy leagues is much higher than mid-3rd round.
[*]Stud recievers and/or Manning >>>>>>>> 3rd tier backs at end of round 1, start round 2.

Any comments?

Brad22 · #**418** 08-13-2007, 08:04 PM

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I obsessed with mock drafting at fantasyfootballcalculator.

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Wow Vixticator, you just killed any free time I had left.

A S U · #**419** 08-13-2007, 10:17 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Alright, I've done about 4 mocks in various league setups and have concluded the following:
[*]Vincent Jackson was a sleeper in keeper drafts last year, he is overvalued in every format this season. Look at players like Patrick Crayton later for a real sleeper. If you get points for KR yards, Ted Ginn seems like a worthy gamble late--he could easily wind up with a good amount of receptions too, Chambers + Booker are awful.

Agree here. I routinely see him going late 6th/early 7th.
[*]Travis Henry is seriously overvalued. Just take Mike Bell super late and profit. The Bills let Henry walk for a college stud coming off a major injury. He battled injuries for a few years and won job in Tennessee by default. Then they let him go because they realize a lot of it is just rub off from VY. Mike Bell is fresh and had a very good rookie season, zero fumbles. He'll get carries.

My only issue is he's an injury risk. He still managed 1200+yds on 270 carries w/ 7td's. I feel he is a must draft in the first 15 picks. Denver is a much better offense. His yardage may remain the same, but his scoring chances have to improve.
[*]lol @ Calvin Johnson in 4/5th round.

He's worth a late 5th, but no more. I see him go early 4th alot of the time.
[*]Lee Evans is way better than Randy Moss, Colston, Walker, Roy Williams, etc.

I prefer Williams, but agree on the other 3. For me it's Williams>Evans>>>Walker>>>&gt ;>Colston>>>>>>>>>&g t;Moss
[*]I'm not big on Brandon Jacobs in "real" football but me thinks his fantasy value especially in touchdown heavy leagues is much higher than mid-3rd round.

I'm picking 11/12 so unless Peyton slips i'm going RB/RB most likely. He's usually there at 3.11, but I pass. I've noticed his ADP has gravitated towards middle-early 3. He was huge upside though.
[*]Stud recievers and/or Manning >>>>>>>> 3rd tier backs at end of round 1, start round 2.

At 1.11 and 2.02 I'm taking Manning, but passing on WR. I'm feel that going Henry/McGahee/Boldin/Evans is superior to Henry/CJ/Jacobs/Evans..Praying that Jacobs is there at 3.11 otherwise I have to take Caddy or Lynch which i'm not thrilled to do for my Rb2.

Any comments?

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LBJ · #**420** 08-13-2007, 11:28 PM

Yeah, I ended up keeping the #4 pick when the #3 guy took LJ. I took Gore happily. Here's my draft, give it a grade.

10 team league, QB, RB, RB/WR, 2 WR, TE, K, D

1.04 - Frank Gore
2.03 - Reggie Bush
3.08 - Clinton Portis
4.03 - Roy Williams
5.08 - Cadillac Williams
6.03 - Vince Young (too early I had no 7th and wanted him)
8.03 - Santana Moss
9.04 - Todd Heap
9.08 - Donte Stallworth
10.03 - DJ Hackett
11.08 - Pitt D
12.03 - Kevin Jones
13.08 - LJ Smith
14.03 - Byron Leftwich
15.08 - Gostkowski
16.03 - Ronald Curry

Right now I'm considering two trade possibilities. Bush and S. Moss for Holt and Marvin Harrison. Other one is Portis for McNabb.

Thoughts?

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