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#31
11-05-2007, 08:25 PM
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Re: Can someone explain?
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most people are clueless what to do out of position, but im really amazed by his play, im assuming this is some kinda freeroll or 0,10$ tournament or you got really really lucky with your table.Haven't seen this kinda plays even in rebuys. [/ QUOTE ] Why are you confused about SB's play? It seems like a perfectly good play from a suited 43 in the SB if he had a plan to push a flop that wasn't coordinated. He knows that if MP's had a really good hand they would have come over the top pre-flop and he's just putting you on the kind of hand you have. Fold. No reason to think your AK is all that strong here. 
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#32
11-05-2007, 08:35 PM
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Re: Can someone explain?
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[ QUOTE ] most people are clueless what to do out of position, but im really amazed by his play, im assuming this is some kinda freeroll or 0,10$ tournament or you got really really lucky with your table.Haven't seen this kinda plays even in rebuys. [/ QUOTE ] Why are you confused about SB's play? It seems like a perfectly good play from a suited 43 in the SB if he had a plan to push a flop that wasn't coordinated. He knows that if MP's had a really good hand they would have come over the top pre-flop and he's just putting you on the kind of hand you have. Fold. No reason to think your AK is all that strong here. [/ QUOTE ] perfectly good play by villan seems a bit too positive...also saying it may send the OP over the edge...villan played the hand pretty wild but I agree hero played it worst...
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#33
11-05-2007, 08:39 PM
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Re: Can someone explain?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] most people are clueless what to do out of position, but im really amazed by his play, im assuming this is some kinda freeroll or 0,10$ tournament or you got really really lucky with your table.Haven't seen this kinda plays even in rebuys. [/ QUOTE ] Why are you confused about SB's play? It seems like a perfectly good play from a suited 43 in the SB if he had a plan to push a flop that wasn't coordinated. He knows that if MP's had a really good hand they would have come over the top pre-flop and he's just putting you on the kind of hand you have. Fold. No reason to think your AK is all that strong here. [/ QUOTE ] perfectly good play by villan seems a bit too positive...also saying it may send the OP over the edge...villan played the hand pretty wild but I agree hero played it worst... [/ QUOTE ] Well, all we have to go by is what the HH tells us. We have no insight into villains play. I do know that this is a pretty standard play against an opponent that I have a good read on so I'm giving villain the benefit of the doubt. Against an A high it's a good play, especially with a passive MP and BB and I agree with the other posters who wrote that he certainly didn't expect to be called.
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#34
11-05-2007, 08:56 PM
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Re: Can someone explain?
Why post...and then complain when you get legit critiques. Why are you complaining about a player that calls a huge raise with slop? Put in a note and take his chips next time....
That kind of spewtardish play is easily exploitable. But you can't take advantage until you get your S@#$ together. Listen to the advise you are getting here and stop being defensive. Your play pre and post flop stunk....per the other post....raise less...fold post Why get mad? We all screw up.....we post here to learn...if u don't like that....u r in the wrong place.
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#35
11-05-2007, 09:03 PM
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Re: Can someone explain?
Why does this thread have posts? There are way way better threads on this forum all the time. Why aren't more people replying to them and thinking about substative questions that can make money?
This thread is really easy. The SBs shove was pretty bad. The OP's call was worse. Sherman
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#37
11-05-2007, 09:07 PM
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Re: Can someone explain?
I'm going to side with the OP here a bit. Sure, 650 is meh & I'd have made it 300 preflop, but if you've got a read SB is calling anything with a huge range, then it's fine. And with a read, which was obviously correct by him flipping over 43, the flop call is okayish. I've made similar calls before. I don't like the way the OP played the hand but it isn't as bad as people are making out. And for the sake of OP's ego, I agree with him the SB played it worse.
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#38
11-05-2007, 09:25 PM
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Re: Can someone explain?
I feel your pain, however...
IMHO, you over raise pf and therefore trap yourself on the flop. If he's as bad as you say he is than he'll pull that stunt with any pair or the draw he had. I'd raise the min for the situation 250 I think has been mentioned, and curse my bad luck vs the donk on the flop, then wait for a real hand to trap him with and hope he doesn't suck out then. AK is a finesse hand not a power hand once cards are on the board. Now if I can just figure out how to keep these kind of idiots from drawing out on me when I'm 3-1 preflop, and 23-1 going to the river....
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#39
11-05-2007, 10:09 PM
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Re: Can someone explain?
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I'm going to side with the OP here a bit. Sure, 650 is meh & I'd have made it 300 preflop, but if you've got a read SB is calling anything with a huge range, then it's fine. And with a read, which was obviously correct by him flipping over 43, the flop call is okayish. I've made similar calls before. I don't like the way the OP played the hand but it isn't as bad as people are making out. And for the sake of OP's ego, I agree with him the SB played it worse. [/ QUOTE ] way too nice but if it will put an end to the madness then sure...what he said
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