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#31
10-17-2007, 04:13 PM
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It also encourages people “to flood New York State,” taxing its social services, schools, and hospitals. This would also apply to other states and their social services. The negative of this is the probability that the value of these services exceed any income tax the aliens pay. [/ QUOTE ] Wait, I thought you were claiming that people who don't oppose immigration are socialists. Now you're telling me that you're all worried about the viability of social services. Shouldn't YOU, as a "non-socialist," be trying to have these programs dismantled? [/ QUOTE ] I believe that the New Deal policies of FDR were bad for the country. I would vote for any presidential candidate that would dismantle those programs. My point in quoting that paragraph was to illustrate that the already wasteful state and national programs will be worsened by non-citizens who use more than they pay in. 
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#32
10-17-2007, 04:18 PM
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My point in quoting that paragraph was to illustrate that the already wasteful state and national programs will be worsened by non-citizens who use more than they pay in. [/ QUOTE ] So why didn't you start a thread whining about those instead? This is like starting a thread about stopping cheeseburger production because lots of bankrobbers eat cheeseburgers. Also, your contention that "these people" are using more than they pay in holds for a large number of citizens, too. Is your opposition to the mooching, or to the fact that some people (smelly brown ones of course, not the clean white ones like your ancestors LDO) who are mooching were born on the wrong side of some imaginary line?
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#33
10-17-2007, 04:41 PM
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HEY OP MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS [/ QUOTE ]
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#34
10-17-2007, 04:52 PM
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[ QUOTE ] HEY OP MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] this is utterly retarded. Why even have a politics forum, 99% of the drivel you retards spew out on a daily basis if they were changed, would have little effect on anything. so why arent you idiots minding your own business? personally, I love illegals, and cant wait to buy my first house next year and have a cheap pool dug w/ home depot labor, but to say "mind your own business" in this forum is hilarious.
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#35
10-17-2007, 06:23 PM
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Re: Illegal aliens given drivers\' licenses
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] HEY OP MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] this is utterly retarded. Why even have a politics forum, 99% of the drivel you retards spew out on a daily basis if they were changed, would have little effect on anything. so why arent you idiots minding your own business? personally, I love illegals, and cant wait to buy my first house next year and have a cheap pool dug w/ home depot labor, but to say "mind your own business" in this forum is hilarious. [/ QUOTE ] I think you entirely missed the point. His reply was basically perfect. If you don't like illegals, MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. Feel free to never hire an illegal, never buy a hamburger made by an illegal, never shop at a store that employs illegals, never invite an illegal over for dinner. BUT MIND YOUR OWN [censored] BUSINESS. Me and my illegal buddies are going to go down to Wal Mart and buy a ton of really cheap [censored]. And eat a bunch of really cheap food. Have fun with your American flags ($499.99, made by 100% American labor).
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#36
10-17-2007, 06:29 PM
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Re: Illegal aliens given drivers\' licenses
The thread was started primarily from news reports I saw about aliens using DL's to vote when they have no right to vote. Then after reading articles I saw the issue of aliens also includes using social services. And last but not least the issue includes terrorists using easy DL procurement to facilitate their activities.
There is a difference between citizens using social services (paid by taxes) and non-citizen aliens using social services. There are illigal immigration laws in place. If you don't like those laws, lobby your representatives to repeal them. In the meantime, stop defending people who break those laws.
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#37
10-17-2007, 06:36 PM
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Re: Illegal aliens given drivers\' licenses
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The thread was started primarily from news reports I saw about aliens using DL's to vote when they have no right to vote. Then after reading articles I saw the issue of aliens also includes using social services. And last but not least the issue includes terrorists using easy DL procurement to facilitate their activities. There is a difference between citizens using social services (paid by taxes) and non-citizen aliens using social services. There are illigal immigration laws in place. If you don't like those laws, lobby your representatives to repeal them. In the meantime, stop defending people who break those laws. [/ QUOTE ] Where do illegals buy their groceries and miscellany? Do they not pay taxes on that? Income taxes arent the only form of taxation.
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#38
10-17-2007, 06:38 PM
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Re: Illegal aliens given drivers\' licenses
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[ QUOTE ] The thread was started primarily from news reports I saw about aliens using DL's to vote when they have no right to vote. Then after reading articles I saw the issue of aliens also includes using social services. And last but not least the issue includes terrorists using easy DL procurement to facilitate their activities. There is a difference between citizens using social services (paid by taxes) and non-citizen aliens using social services. There are illigal immigration laws in place. If you don't like those laws, lobby your representatives to repeal them. In the meantime, stop defending people who break those laws. [/ QUOTE ] Where do illegals buy their groceries and miscellany? Do they not pay taxes on that? Income taxes arent the only form of taxation. [/ QUOTE ] No, but they are the VAST majority.
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#39
10-17-2007, 06:40 PM
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I think you entirely missed the point. His reply was basically perfect. If you don't like illegals, MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. [/ QUOTE ] If you don't like my thread don't read it. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Bye
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#40
10-17-2007, 06:41 PM
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Re: Illegal aliens given drivers\' licenses
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The thread was started primarily from news reports I saw about aliens using DL's to vote when they have no right to vote. Then after reading articles I saw the issue of aliens also includes using social services. And last but not least the issue includes terrorists using easy DL procurement to facilitate their activities. There is a difference between citizens using social services (paid by taxes) and non-citizen aliens using social services. There are illigal immigration laws in place. If you don't like those laws, lobby your representatives to repeal them. In the meantime, stop defending people who break those laws. [/ QUOTE ] Where do illegals buy their groceries and miscellany? Do they not pay taxes on that? Income taxes arent the only form of taxation. [/ QUOTE ] No, but they are the VAST majority. [/ QUOTE ] Not for the poor. And lots of illegal immigrants do pay IT through withholding.
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