NL200, QQ, what to do preflop?

[Fousekis]

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dude, its a CO raise 6 handed, not UTG

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Well the scenario I assumed was, the exact same betting from the same positions, but with MPs folding. Fair enough, in the case of an original raise from the CO rather than UTG, even 6 handed I would not fold either.

I still think a min raise is not a good move. Why should I let a donk hit his ace for cheap? Unless you are saying that you fold on an A high flop ...

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: puts head in hands :

if he isn't calling a push and is calling a 2.5x raise i'll let him try to hit his A high flop all day long

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lol I said minraise not x2.5 ... we are misunderstanding each other a lot

I'm happy with x2.5 raise, but I'd still prefer to shove.

[Fousekis]

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why am i hearing that a cold 4bet push looks weak?

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That's a good point. I don't really know the answer but fish tend to "put you on AK" every time you 4bet a pot. I've had people call me down with 66, 77, TT, even 22 etc. in 4bet pots before.

[Unknown Soldier]

fousekis, he likely has a hand that wants to see a flop before comitting all his chips, like JT or 99 or something, let him. It's that simple really. A small 4b looks insanely strong here anyway, moreso then a push probably, but that's not the point. He doesn't think about it like that.

[Fousekis]

Yes, I'm happy with either a shove or a x2.5 raise. The only thing I'm not happy with is the minraise.

[SheepSuit]

the problem is we are giving the button great odds to call with marginal hands, as he'll realize SB will come along anyway

[traz]

I probably go $75