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52 | 50.49% |
| Yes, but pound away anyway |
  
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13 | 12.62% |
| Yes, and I attempt to give my opponent a reasonable chance to return |
  
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19 | 18.45% |
| Not sure, don't care, pound away |
  
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19 | 18.45% |
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#31
09-27-2007, 02:53 AM
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Re: FFB Ethics / Fair Play Questions
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I also think that in general, trades should be confirmed by both parties again right before completion. What if I propose a trade for Manning, the next day he gets hurt, and the other guy immediately accepts before I get a chance to rescind? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, you've got the right idea. 
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#32
09-27-2007, 03:17 AM
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wtf how are people saying that #1 is fine and #2 is lame #1 is a total angle shot. The trade was considered dead - it's just a function of the software that neither party rejected it. Clear angle shot. #2 is standard. It is probably not a +EV play at all unless you are playing in a super-deep league. Picking up the best defenses and leaving the dregs is sensible. kyro - I would sit the quarterback, unless there was reason for me to suspect scoring changes impacting scoring. This has happened before on Monday. [/ QUOTE ] Totally agree I am shocked at the people saying one is okay and two isn't. #1 may not be "cheating" but it certainly isn't in the spirit of the game. #2 I have NO problems with at all, but it would take an extreme situtation for it to be a good strategy. I have once found myself in this kind of situtation in a 13 team league with 20 man rosters at the end of the year, when I knew the position depth would know longer be needed. I won that league.
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#33
09-27-2007, 03:21 AM
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[ QUOTE ] speaking of which.... You're up 101-100. You have a QB left to go. Is it fair play to sit the QB? Especially if he's Rex Grossman? [/ QUOTE ] wtf?? YES it's fair. [/ QUOTE ] I've done this several times in head to head leagues where I had the lead with players left for the Monday night game and took them out and left the spot blank. Once sat 4 of ten players. I just thought it was sound strategy.
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#34
09-27-2007, 03:24 AM
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Re: FFB Ethics / Fair Play Questions
" Once sat 4 of ten players. I just thought it was sound strategy."
you realize the possibility of tieieng and using most points as a tiebreak is like a billion times more likely than all 4 players combining for less than 0 points.
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#35
09-27-2007, 03:30 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] C) When the trade was accepted, trade offerer IMMEDIATELY gave a WTF and objected to the trade, and stated he had absolutely no intention of making the trade at the current time. I feel this should have some say in the matter, especially in a league with friends.(Although granted, there is money on the line, additional money on the line between the 2 teams.) [/ QUOTE ] This makes no difference. With money on the line and the trade on the table, I'm taking it, even if it makes me look like a douche. He knew the trade had to be withdrawn, and he didn't withdraw the trade. End of story. [/ QUOTE ] If you offered someone a trade, and then later in the week a player you wanted to receive was murdered, and your opponent was able to rush to the computer faster than you and accepted the trade, it would be okay? [/ QUOTE ] This is not the scenario at all. Nothing significant such as an injury or death occurred, Randy Moss is just outperforming his expectations. Player #2 has to assume that since the trade remained on the table for TWO WEEKS that Player #1 still wanted to do the deal despite some good games from Moss and was hoping Player #2 would change his mind. Player #1 had plenty of time to revoke the trade, no excuse really to be bitter afterwards.
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#36
09-27-2007, 03:39 AM
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Re: FFB Ethics / Fair Play Questions
Normally that might be the case...but apparantly the two had a aim conversation where player #1 ragged on player #2 for rejecting the trade and how he was glad he never traded Moss.
Player #2 never mentions that the Moss trade is still showing as an open offer. Player #1 and player #2 are friends and have a sidebet going together along with Nath. So that makes it kind of [censored] up. But it still is within the rules given all Player 1 had to do was withdraw the trade.
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#37
09-27-2007, 03:42 AM
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Re: FFB Ethics / Fair Play Questions
LOL then Player 1 made a mistake and Player 2 made a slimy but allowable move.
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#38
09-27-2007, 06:53 AM
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Re: FFB Ethics / Fair Play Questions
With the extra circumstances in #1 it becomes more and more shady. It's clearly an angle shoot and getting closer to cheating and in all fairness the trade should be rejected.
In #2 if the guy doesn't pick up a defense during waivers and get burned for it, I would say it is just gamesmanship. He had his chance to pick up a defense. I however, would pick up the best player he dropped.
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#39
09-27-2007, 10:09 AM
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Re: FFB Ethics / Fair Play Questions
I wouldn't allow either in any of the leagues I commish (actually, our leagues are set up so #2 is impossible).
-McGee
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#40
09-27-2007, 11:42 AM
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" Once sat 4 of ten players. I just thought it was sound strategy." you realize the possibility of tieieng and using most points as a tiebreak is like a billion times more likely than all 4 players combining for less than 0 points. [/ QUOTE ] how were we going to tie, I was ahead If you meant total points for playoff seedings, I didn't have to worry about that. I agree it wasn't really needed, but it was fun to do anyway, lol.
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