NL200 AK 3bet pot

[keikiwai]

UTG's stats are very important here... what are they?

if utg is tight, i think pf is a fold, since SB is usually not making a move

if utg is loose, SB is agg enough that he could well be making a move thinking you are pfrring light..... so shove pf

as played you can't fold, and raising just gets called by worse, so you have to just call and call and stack off..... don't think you can fold top 2 here....... but you should have avoided this by playing pf diff.

EDIT: may agree w/ augie on a river fold, but it's close... well not really, you're always beat.... but you just shouldn't be folding top 2 in big pots

[pineapple888]

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UTG's stats are very important here... what are they?

if utg is tight, i think pf is a fold, since SB is usually not making a move

if utg is loose, SB is agg enough that he could well be making a move thinking you are pfrring light..... so shove pf

as played you can't fold, and raising just gets called by worse, so you have to just call and call and stack off..... don't think you can fold top 2 here....... but you should have avoided this by playing pf diff.

EDIT: may agree w/ augie on a river fold, but it's close... well not really, you're always beat.... but you just shouldn't be folding top 2 in big pots

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Cmon dude, you know it's all about ranges. The K on the turn is an awful card for you, top 2 is irrelevant here.

[keikiwai]

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UTG's stats are very important here... what are they?

if utg is tight, i think pf is a fold, since SB is usually not making a move

if utg is loose, SB is agg enough that he could well be making a move thinking you are pfrring light..... so shove pf

as played you can't fold, and raising just gets called by worse, so you have to just call and call and stack off..... don't think you can fold top 2 here....... but you should have avoided this by playing pf diff.

EDIT: may agree w/ augie on a river fold, but it's close... well not really, you're always beat.... but you just shouldn't be folding top 2 in big pots

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Cmon dude, you know it's all about ranges. The K on the turn is an awful card for you, top 2 is irrelevant here.

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[willw9]

I c/f flop.

[keikiwai]

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I c/f flop.

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that'd be cute ip

villain would make a bbv post - "They be seein' my hole cards!"

[runhot]

this is a 4bet pot preflop- not from the original raiser. and he basically minraised the 3 bet. this is never anything other than AA KK imo. and actually its almost never kk.

[cbboy]

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How is the paired 8 significant?

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A slow played a8 or a scared 58 now beats us, it would be nice to fold turn though.

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Because 85 is min 4-betting us PF here....