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#31
09-08-2007, 01:03 AM
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Re: The cost of Democrats defeatism
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The Viet Cong were unable to penetrate CAP villages, and as a result the Marine area of operations, I Corps, was one of the most secure districts of the country, even though it bordered on North Vietnam itself. [/ QUOTE ] What next? The USA did not loose the Vietnam war? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] 
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#32
09-08-2007, 02:13 AM
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Re: The cost of Democrats defeatism
So, the question I have to ask OP, is would you rather no one questioned the war? Because that is what you are saying.
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#33
09-08-2007, 02:41 AM
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So, the question I have to ask OP, is would you rather no one questioned the war? Because that is what you are saying. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, that's basically been his stance in several threads.
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#34
09-08-2007, 12:04 PM
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So, the question I have to ask OP, is would you rather no one questioned the war? Because that is what you are saying. [/ QUOTE ] This is not what I'm saying at all. In fact I have questioned the war myself (just not on this forum) many times. Questioning the war and pronouncing it to be a failure to the whole world are two entirely different things. By doing so we are sending the message to our friends and enemies alike that America can be defeated easily and would abandon her allies at a moments notice.
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#35
09-08-2007, 01:15 PM
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Questioning the war and pronouncing it to be a failure to the whole world are two entirely different things. By doing so we are sending the message to our friends and enemies alike that America can be defeated easily and would abandon her allies at a moments notice. [/ QUOTE ] You sure seem to think little of the rest of the world. They ALREADY know it's a failure. They ALREADY know exactly how to defeat us. What allies are we abandoning if we leave? The Iraqis? The ones shooting at us and planting bombs and killing us? With friends like that....
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#36
09-08-2007, 07:00 PM
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Re: The cost of Democrats defeatism
[quote By doing so we are sending the message to our friends and enemies alike that America can be defeated easily and would abandon her allies at a moments notice.
[/ QUOTE ] Just like in WW2, where we gave up at the drop of a hat.. Oh wait. No, admitting a mistake and giving up easily aren't necessarily the same thing. Also, how many years do we have to spend in Iraq before we can leave, or as you say, give up? Will twenty years of bloodshed be what it takes for us to "look tough" enough that the whole world will take us seriously? (I can only assume that's what this is about to you, otherwise why bring up looking easily defeatable?) I say No! America is NOT easily defeatable! We'll stay there 100 years and STILL lose, killing millions, if only to prove that we cannot be easily defeated! (Of course I'm being silly, America will elect a peace president sooner or later who will get us out the Iraq mistake. Bush knows this, of course, but is content to let innocent young people die until this happens, just so he doesn't have to admit to making a mistake or 'give up'. Remember that every time you see a flag draped coffin. Another lost life so George W. could save face.)
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#38
09-08-2007, 07:25 PM
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[ QUOTE ] They ALREADY know exactly how to defeat us. [/ QUOTE ] Let us invade them with no support and for no reason? [/ QUOTE ] Pretty much. Although we didn't invade "them", we invaded somebody totally different. There's no denying that this war is going to impact our lives for years to come, if for no other reason than we're going into so much debt.
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