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Old 09-07-2007, 05:18 AM
BalugaWhale BalugaWhale is offline
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vs typical 400NL tight tag I agree with this except for the air part.


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i honestly agree as well, which is why calling is the clear choice.
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Old 09-07-2007, 05:35 AM
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there is no other way to play hand 1 but to jam

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my first thought also
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Old 09-07-2007, 05:53 AM
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Default Re: Two semibluffs against some tags

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vs typical 400NL tight tag I agree with this except for the air part.


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i honestly agree as well, which is why calling is the clear choice.

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Yea, pretty much, but then you say you would shove turn if he checked, which goes against you thinking he has a monster pretty much always to be raising flop here, and you don't think he would check a big hand on the turn for some reason. At that point its irrelevant and wrong as if we think he has pretty much only big hands to raise flop and now we get to the turn and he checks, our perception of the flop action is the same and he should still only have big hands, and clearly hes checking with one right now so why would we shove?
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Old 09-07-2007, 05:57 AM
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Default Re: Two semibluffs against some tags

Hand 1 is marginally EV- IMHO because it's 3-handed.

Hand 2 I'd usually just raise flop. Yes, it looks stronger to raise turn, but our equity is a lot less if we get it in on the turn than if we get it in on the flop.
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Old 09-07-2007, 02:44 PM
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Yea, pretty much, but then you say you would shove turn if he checked, which goes against you thinking he has a monster pretty much always to be raising flop here, and you don't think he would check a big hand on the turn for some reason. At that point its irrelevant and wrong as if we think he has pretty much only big hands to raise flop and now we get to the turn and he checks, our perception of the flop action is the same and he should still only have big hands, and clearly hes checking with one right now so why would we shove?

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you make a really good point
i just think he rarely checks the turn with a big one, seeing as our hand looks pretty strong by calling the c/r on that board. He'd probably go to town with a set or slowplayed overpair. He also might c/f a Q.

I'd guess our turn decision is pretty meh if he checks, but jamming the flop here is pretty much psycho. we agree on that though i think.
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Old 09-28-2007, 03:30 AM
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And one of the villains now know your Party SN [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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