Step by step, pretty unique hand

[rapidacid]

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I fold preflop.

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Shocker.

[Jay Riall]

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I fold preflop.

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Shocker.

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Ragging on Nielsio's nittiness has been done soo many times and is completely unoriginal, but it still gets a smile out of me every time.

[toybux]

Ugh, river is a sticky spot. I think if you are going to get all in here, you should be betting more (like $77). Villain probably won't fold a paint-high flush given this line for such a bet. If we bet a bunch more relative to the pot compared to the turn, I think fishy villains will think bluff more often than they should.

Once villain pushes over your raise, I feel like we're almost always beat but I can't really see how we can fold.

I like your line up to the river though.

[Spy Dog]

Preflop: Ugh. Talk about a crappy hand to call here. I don't think you should change your calling standards much just because he minraised. Maybe open up your 3-betting range, but opening up your calling range is going to get you in trouble with hands that are easily dominated and have reverse implied odds. The fact that the SB coldcalls the minraise makes your call even worse because he will be calling AT-AK.

FWIW, I used to call minraises with just about anything. It proved to be a leak.

Flop: Looks like a great flop. Nut flush draw + 2 overcards + BSD. I want some money going in. If it all goes in I'm cool with that. I want as much dead money in as possible so I go for a CR.

Turn: Looks fine.

River: I'm like your smallish bet.

[0evg0]

3bet pf

lead flop

[Jay Riall]

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Preflop: Ugh. Talk about a crappy hand to call here. I don't think you should change your calling standards much just because he minraised. Maybe open up your 3-betting range, but opening up your calling range is going to get you in trouble with hands that are easily dominated and have reverse implied odds. The fact that the SB coldcalls the minraise makes your call even worse because he will be calling AT-AK.

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Its a fish's open minraise from the button and a fish's call fro the SB. Their ranges are massive here, and there are plenty of weaker nines and Aces they put money into the pot with when behind. Saying we have bad reverse implieds is grossly biased imo since we are also making money a decent amount of the time on 9zz and Axx flops. With the price we're getting and the players we are against I don't see how this is ever a fold. 3betting may be better, I disagree at the moment, anyone want to pursuade me otherwise?

[Phoenix1010]

lol at folding pre. Check here and let him bet < half pot. Then do something.

[orange]

PF is whatever. it may be a mistake but i doubt its a mistake that will destroy your win rate.

flop fine i suppose. isura's idea of potting it is interesting too. turn is standard.

river is sortve meh...i doubt he's value shoving a K. he could be pure bluffing. i would actually think that the 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] would be the most likely card in his range in terms of drawing to the SF. i dont know, pretty weird hand.

[Phoenix1010]

Oh weird bet, I dunno if I call that flop bet. As played just bet the turn.

[Jay Riall]

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Oh weird bet, I dunno if I call that flop bet. As played just bet the turn.

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Eugh, folding the flop to that action is just terrible imo.