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Old 08-24-2007, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: I 5-bet light lol

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I get the impression the people responding here didn't look at your reads, this hand is played fine. If one of them show up with AA you're obviously toast, but otherwise you're taking this down. VNH.

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What? Huh?

Button has two nines here or AK? I don't think so.

Even maniacs "sober up" per se when the action has gone, UTG raise, 3 bet, and its on them.
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: I 5-bet light lol

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I get the impression the people responding here didn't look at your reads, this hand is played fine. If one of them show up with AA you're obviously toast, but otherwise you're taking this down. VNH.

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What range do you put button on then?
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: I 5-bet light lol

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I get the impression the people responding here didn't look at your reads, this hand is played fine. If one of them show up with AA you're obviously toast, but otherwise you're taking this down. VNH.

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What? Huh?

Button has two nines here or AK? I don't think so.

Even maniacs "sober up" per se when the action has gone, UTG raise, 3 bet, and its on them.

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These are thinking LAGs, not maniac fish.

Loose player raises-->Loose CO iso re-raises-->switched on button 4 bet bluffs. It says a lot that this is so inconceivable to people in this forum.
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: I 5-bet light lol

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I get the impression the people responding here didn't look at your reads, this hand is played fine. If one of them show up with AA you're obviously toast, but otherwise you're taking this down. VNH.

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KK is never ever ever folding
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:26 PM
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Default Re: I 5-bet light lol

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I get the impression the people responding here didn't look at your reads, this hand is played fine. If one of them show up with AA you're obviously toast, but otherwise you're taking this down. VNH.

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KK is never ever ever folding

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You might be right. The problem with the five-bet is the likelihood that button could call light because hero could easily have ATC, and we know button is a thinking player because he 4-bet bluffed two opponents...

so yeah, it might be closer than I realised now I think about it.
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: I 5-bet light lol

PropMike,

you are greatly overestimating the ability of a thinking LAG in Small Stakes games.

People aren't this charismatic, tricky, creative, what have you, at $1/2 NL with this action.

If they are, and I would bet the bank they are not, OP is really really dumb for sitting at this table if these players are this world class and open.
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: I 5-bet light lol

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I get the impression the people responding here didn't look at your reads, this hand is played fine. If one of them show up with AA you're obviously toast, but otherwise you're taking this down. VNH.

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KK is never ever ever folding

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You might be right. The problem with the five-bet is the likelihood that button could call light because hero could easily have ATC, and we know button is a thinking player because he 4-bet bluffed two opponents...

so yeah, it might be closer than I realised now I think about it.

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okay, now i know propmike is goofing. at least i hope for his sake he is.
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: I 5-bet light lol

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button 4 bet bluffs

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This is giving a 200NL player way, way too much credit IMO.

But even allowing for the fact that he could have air in his range does not automatically make this a +EV play. He's still doing this with QQ+, AK every time. Not to mention UTG and CO have these hands in their range every time as well and are still in the hand.

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It says a lot that this is so inconceivable to people in this forum.

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Since you seem to have a much more thorough understanding of the game than the people on this forum, perhaps you could show us some EV calcs that support your position?
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:33 PM
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The problem with the five-bet is the likelihood that button could call light because hero could easily have ATC

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LOL

This guys gotta be a troll.
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: I 5-bet light lol

Not a troll, just on a higher level than y'all.

Please return to serious discussion of whether to five bet light into three opponents.
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