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Old 08-23-2007, 03:48 AM
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Default Re: Would you rather play Omar Vizquel or Albert Pujols at shortstop?

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has basically no fielding skills (e.g. Albert Pujols)

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wow you sure picked the wrong player to say has no defensive skills.
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:50 AM
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Default Re: Would you rather play Omar Vizquel or Albert Pujols at shortstop?

i would pick pujols because he could officially play SS but just switch spots with 3B every game.
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Old 08-23-2007, 04:55 AM
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Default Re: Would you rather play Omar Vizquel or Albert Pujols at shortstop?

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If they need to, they just make Gold Glover Scott Rolen play 1-2 steps to his left or back a couple steps and hope he can put more on his throws from 3rd if need-be, to help compensate for Pujols' lack of range.

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Wait...I signed Rolen too? This is getting better by the minute.
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Old 08-23-2007, 07:23 AM
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If you take Mo Vaughn and give him Pujols/Arod hitting skills this would be a much more interesting question.

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Yes, this was more or less my intention. I have apparently underrated Pujols's fielding quite a bit.

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I could be wrong, but I think what you're trying to get at is....

Everyone picks Pujols. This then shows that players who become superstars just because they're good "for their position" are overvalued. Examples of these types of players would be Cal Ripken, Craig Biggio, Mike Piazza, etc.

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Someone with no fielding skill would bleed runs at SS, destroy your pitchers, and probably get himself hurt.
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Old 08-23-2007, 09:49 AM
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Default Re: Would you rather play Omar Vizquel or Albert Pujols at shortstop?

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He'd likely struggle at SS, but it's not like putting Manny Ramirez there.

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Hey, cmon now. Manny has the infielders side arm throw down pat.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:19 AM
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Default Re: Would you rather play Omar Vizquel or Albert Pujols at shortstop?

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He'd likely struggle at SS, but it's not like putting Manny Ramirez there.

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Hey, cmon now. Manny has the infielders side arm throw down pat.

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plus, Manny is excellent at cutting off throws (you can skip to the :30 mark or so)
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:23 AM
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Default Re: Would you rather play Omar Vizquel or Albert Pujols at shortstop?

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If you take Mo Vaughn and give him Pujols/Arod hitting skills this would be a much more interesting question.

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Yes, this was more or less my intention. I have apparently underrated Pujols's fielding quite a bit.

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I could be wrong, but I think what you're trying to get at is....

Everyone picks Pujols. This then shows that players who become superstars just because they're good "for their position" are overvalued. Examples of these types of players would be Cal Ripken, Craig Biggio, Mike Piazza, etc.

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Someone with no fielding skill would bleed runs at SS, destroy your pitchers, and probably get himself hurt.

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Would you say Pronk would be this guy? How many runs below replacement would he be? I don't expect more out of him than a junior high SS.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:34 AM
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Default Re: Would you rather play Omar Vizquel or Albert Pujols at shortstop?

I have no idea how many runs below replacement he would be, but I'm guessing it would more than offset anything he contributed with the bat.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:38 AM
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I have no idea how many runs below replacement he would be, but I'm guessing it would more than offset anything he contributed with the bat.

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Thats brutal. But if he can't even play a really poor first base... He'd probably be worse than an avg high school kid or something. Its gotta be horrific.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:25 AM
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Default Re: Would you rather play Omar Vizquel or Albert Pujols at shortstop?

i think the people picking pujols are seriously underestimating how much he would cost your team in the field (assuming we're talking about vizquel in his prime, not this year, as well)
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