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Old 08-20-2007, 05:10 PM
ama0330 ama0330 is offline
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Default Turning AK into a bluff again

No history with villain, stats are 22/14/2.0, and seems reasonable. Given that I would attribute a large portion of his range to PP's, surely betting this flop is turning AK into a bluff because we can't profitably double and any A or K kills the action regardless. But then again, if we check behind, our hand is almost face up as AK. What to do?

I'm really getting owned in these spots.


Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $72.00
BB: $49.73
UTG: $67.81
MP: $67.99
CO: $64.44
Hero (BTN): $99.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $1.00, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.00</font>, SB calls $4.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($12) 5 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero ?
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: Turning AK into a bluff again

22/14 is the type that doesn't really respect position and will probably call with dominated type hands pf. he shows up with KQo and 98s here a decent amount. just bet the flop, check behind the turn, and river an ace.
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:15 PM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: Turning AK into a bluff again

I check behind a lot. Who cares if your hand is face up (I don't think it neccessarily is)?
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: Turning AK into a bluff again

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I check behind a lot. Who cares if your hand is face up (I don't think it neccessarily is)?

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OK, so what about when this happens? Check the turn as well?


Turn: ($12) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $9.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $20.00</font>, Hero folds
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: Turning AK into a bluff again

Bet flop, check turn.
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:21 PM
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Bet flop, check turn.

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Why bet the flop? As a bluff?
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: Turning AK into a bluff again

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I check behind a lot. Who cares if your hand is face up (I don't think it neccessarily is)?

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OK, so what about when this happens? Check the turn as well?


Turn: ($12) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $9.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $20.00</font>, Hero folds

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yeah check turn as well. I'd be sooo tempted to "show" that 9 where he is at though.
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: Turning AK into a bluff again

C-bet the flop. If he calls, check behind on the turn and hope to spike river.
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:33 PM
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C-bet the flop. If he calls, check behind on the turn and hope to spike river.

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hello mr. tagfish.
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Old 08-20-2007, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: Turning AK into a bluff again

I think you have to mix it up and be flexible with your range in spots like this, esp w/ more history. And that doesn't mean c-betting AK here either.

As played you are going to have to double barrel this flop sometimes against mid pp's.
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