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Old 08-13-2007, 03:13 AM
yellowbastard yellowbastard is offline
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Default Re: QQ preflop

Strange. There is dead money in the pot and he could possibly have AK.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:13 AM
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the pps isn't directed at me is it? Because I pretty much said that already.

BTW I admit defeat. I'm glad I'm wrong.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:15 AM
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Ive seen this line shown down twice and both times it was AK.
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Old 08-13-2007, 03:20 AM
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the pps isn't directed at me is it? Because I pretty much said that already.

[/ QUOTE ]whoever said they squeeze with 55 which is pretty lol in itself.
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:33 AM
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I think I'm going to chime in here again. I'm not that good at poker, but have played 35K+ hands of 50NL 6max on Stars in the last couple months. For those of you saying that nobody at 50NL knows what a squeeze is, you either haven't played much at this level, or don't pay much attention. There certainly are players squeezing.

There is a VERY good chance that SB is resqueezing rather than sandbagging. If we are giving credit for a tricky play like sandbagging, then we also have to give credit for a tricky play like resqueezing. If we don't give SB credit for being aware enough to know what a squeeze or resqueeze is, then I think he is a donk and we also have to give him a range that includes a lot of medium strength hands that a donk does not want to fold (like JJ-99 and AQ-ATs). With $38 dead money in the pot, I think you are throwing away money by not calling this with better than 2:1 pot odds.
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:33 AM
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Without reads this is a fold... First SB; he smooth calls a raise and push after a three bet.. He's range is extremely narrow here and the only hand u beat that he might push is jj and ak (jj is only included if he's a total donk). The likelyhood of him pushing crap is small in this spot with a three bet and a call in front of him.
The button is also a BIG worry here...
Easy fold
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Old 08-13-2007, 04:57 AM
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Without reads this is a fold... First SB; he smooth calls a raise and push after a three bet.. He's range is extremely narrow here and the only hand u beat that he might push is jj and ak (jj is only included if he's a total donk). The likelyhood of him pushing crap is small in this spot with a three bet and a call in front of him.
The button is also a BIG worry here...
Easy fold

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With your range of non-donk hands (AA,KK and AK) it is still a snapcall.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

287,667,072 games 0.005 secs 57,533,414,400 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.857% 39.64% 00.22% 114030168 626394.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 60.143% 59.92% 00.22% 172384116 626394.00 { KK+, AKs, AKo }
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Old 08-13-2007, 06:39 AM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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OMG, I cant beleive you folded here.

This is a call and fist pump. The chance that SB OVERCALLED a raise preflop with AA/KK are minimal, and the odds the pot are laying you are SICK SICK SICK. His range here is like any PP and any ace. This is a TERRIBLE fold
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Old 08-13-2007, 07:01 AM
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I agree with OP, limp/push is usually AA/KK at these levels. I'm not even counting what the button has (I feel we're ahead). At NL100 or greater, I'd say his range is a lot wider and it would be instant call. Here it's a fold

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Old 08-13-2007, 07:11 AM
TeNDoLLA TeNDoLLA is offline
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I agree with OP, limp/push is usually AA/KK at these levels. I'm not even counting what the button has (I feel we're ahead). At NL100 or greater, I'd say his range is a lot wider and it would be instant call. Here it's a fold

Crovax

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I give my vote for this one also.
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