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#32
08-04-2007, 12:46 AM
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Re: Hand from Schneid\'s Blog
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[ QUOTE ] CR never work. He will call every time here. [/ QUOTE ] I agree and am somewhat surprised that players way better than me suggested it. If we c/r here we have to be prepared to put 4 bets in (and it's quite possible that it still won't work if he has anything other than playing the board imo) because to me a c/r after this action just looks like "this is the only way I can win". I found the call quite mind boggling when I read this hand a while ago and I hated it, however I still think it is better than c/r. [/ QUOTE ] I don't really think you need to be prepared to put in 4 bets because I don't see why Hoss would do anything but call if you c raise him. I don't see what the big deal is with this hand. Hoss is never folding no matter what the [censored] you do. Schnied's call is not as bad as horrendous as everyone thinks either imo. 
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#33
08-04-2007, 12:55 AM
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uh why didnt you bet if you are goign to put in 1 bet wouldnt you rather win the whole pot than half? [/ QUOTE ] Impossible to argue that this isn't a better option IMO if we are putting a bet in.
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#34
08-04-2007, 01:06 AM
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Re: Hand from Schneid\'s Blog
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[ QUOTE ] uh why didnt you bet if you are goign to put in 1 bet wouldnt you rather win the whole pot than half? [/ QUOTE ] Impossible to argue that this isn't a better option IMO if we are putting a bet in. [/ QUOTE ] Not sure I agree. I think you are overestimating your fold equity here.
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#35
08-04-2007, 01:26 AM
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Re: Hand from Schneid\'s Blog
And i think you and schneids are overestimating how often he has a hand worse than the board. All i was saying that if we have decided to put in a bet, i bet betting better than a c/c call here but i don't know how well either of those compare to a c/f against Hoss. But yeah if we are putting in a bet, i am not worried about getting popped here much at all and i think a lead is better than a c/c.
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#36
08-04-2007, 04:35 AM
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Re: Hand from Schneid\'s Blog
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[ QUOTE ] uh why didnt you bet if you are goign to put in 1 bet wouldnt you rather win the whole pot than half? [/ QUOTE ] Impossible to argue that this isn't a better option IMO if we are putting a bet in. [/ QUOTE ] no bc he might check behind a hand like 99 whereas he will never fold a chopping hand to a bet.
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#37
08-04-2007, 03:37 PM
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Re: Hand from Schneid\'s Blog
but if it goes check check then we havent put in a bet, which is pretty key since i said "if we are putting a bet in" [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Also i think that ppl. underesitmate how often more info Hoss gets from the river check, if Mike is peeling 77 here he def. has to be peeling KQ a decent amount so the river bet would not neccesarily be called 100% of the time here. Anyway i'm not interested enough to dive super deep into this, i just don't think Hoss raises a river bet here, and if we are going to put a bet in then i think betting is better in a vaccum, let alone for metagame.
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#38
08-04-2007, 06:36 PM
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Seems like cring has to be better than calling here. [/ QUOTE ] given the line schneids has taken up to this point, c/ring the river is equivalent to him saying "i don't have anything".
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#40
08-06-2007, 12:24 PM
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Re: Hand from Schneid\'s Blog
In case you want to take kitty along when you play..
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/a...atcarrier5.jpg
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