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24 52 12.97%
Rescue Me 20 4.99%
Nip/Tuck 21 5.24%
The Shield 20 4.99%
Prison Break 14 3.49%
The O.C. 6 1.50%
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The 4400 5 1.25%
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OZ 9 2.24%
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ER 9 2.24%
Cold Case 0 0%
Bones 0 0%
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:17 AM
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Theism means believing in a non-metaphorical 'god', or anything 'supernatural'. To be really specific, it means people proclaiming their belief in things that they cannot define.

You yourself do not hold such religious beliefs, and therefore you don't call yourself a theist.

Now, my question is: do you think that it's bad to treat people in a way that results in them having religious beliefs. An example of such would be a parent telling their children a mythological story, and then expecting them to state that they believe it. The mythological stories are presented as historical fact; even though the stories contain loads of mythological symbols and to any sane mind would clearly be identified as metaphor and not fact (god created the earth in seven... etc, etc).





What problems do you see with an 'AC system'? Anarchism means nothing more than the idea that people should act on a voluntary basis and not on a coercive basis. Do you see any problems with that? And if so, why. Anarchocapitalism has a little added idea on top of that that we expect voluntary solutions to arise for arbitration and security. But it's doesn't design anything; it's merely a prediction.

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I don't know if you realized it, but I PMed you about this a while ago.
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:47 AM
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i used to think college was a huge waste of time. but a year after i got my degree i don't think it's so bad.

It gets kids out of the house, it's fun, it can be tough, it's just life, but a little more like life in a camp or something.

I think it's good to have a short intro to life before u get all up in it. I don't think it's completely necessary. But I don't think it's necessarily bad.
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Old 07-19-2007, 06:39 AM
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Theism means believing in a non-metaphorical 'god', or anything 'supernatural'. To be really specific, it means people proclaiming their belief in things that they cannot define.

You yourself do not hold such religious beliefs, and therefore you don't call yourself a theist.

Now, my question is: do you think that it's bad to treat people in a way that results in them having religious beliefs. An example of such would be a parent telling their children a mythological story, and then expecting them to state that they believe it. The mythological stories are presented as historical fact; even though the stories contain loads of mythological symbols and to any sane mind would clearly be identified as metaphor and not fact (god created the earth in seven... etc, etc).





What problems do you see with an 'AC system'? Anarchism means nothing more than the idea that people should act on a voluntary basis and not on a coercive basis. Do you see any problems with that? And if so, why. Anarchocapitalism has a little added idea on top of that that we expect voluntary solutions to arise for arbitration and security. But it's doesn't design anything; it's merely a prediction.

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I don't know if you realized it, but I PMed you about this a while ago.

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Yeah, I saw it. I'll try to respond today.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:06 PM
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There is demand for universities, both on the student side and the professor side

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The demand for universities is heavily inflated via government subsidies (state schools, exceeding cheap loans, ect).
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Old 07-20-2007, 01:35 AM
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Taraz are you looking for a normative or a descriptive answer/discussion?
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Old 07-20-2007, 01:49 AM
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It gets kids out of the house, it's fun, it can be tough, it's just life, but a little more like life in a camp or something.
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Gee I'm so happy I could pay thousands of dollars in taxes for you to have a fun little summer camp.
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Old 07-20-2007, 03:36 AM
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Taraz are you looking for a normative or a descriptive answer/discussion?

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I was going for normative.

Basically my thinking was that if the reason we have a university system is for the benefit of the employer, employers should pay for it. If it's for the benefit of society as a whole we should be clear what we are going for and what the best way to achieve that is.

As it stands, it seems like many people have many different conceptions of what a university education should entail. I guess that's fine and everyone should be able to choose what they want out of higher education. But it seems like we should decide why we have public universities and discuss who we want to let in and why.
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Old 07-20-2007, 05:09 AM
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Taraz are you looking for a normative or a descriptive answer/discussion?

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I was going for normative.

Basically my thinking was that if the reason we have a university system is for the benefit of the employer, employers should pay for it. If it's for the benefit of society as a whole we should be clear what we are going for and what the best way to achieve that is.

As it stands, it seems like many people have many different conceptions of what a university education should entail. I guess that's fine and everyone should be able to choose what they want out of higher education. But it seems like we should decide why we have public universities and discuss who we want to let in and why.

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This is an excellent point Taraz, and one that a lot of us; as university students never really get around to thinking about. I've often questioned the utility of my degree in physics (especially now, during the time I've gotten a chance to try finding a job that fits my major as well as my expectations in what i should be doing with my life.)
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