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Old 07-08-2007, 08:16 PM
mikech mikech is offline
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Default Re: 100-200-400 Hand in Bobby\'s Room vs Viffer

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anybody who knows viffer what percent does he fold AQ/AJ there?

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hi matt,

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i've played quite a few hours with viffer

the viffer i know is rarely folding a big ace here

he will usually call

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especially given ariel's relatively short stack, viffer's rarely folding AQ/AJ, and he's NEVER folding AK.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:01 PM
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Default Re: 100-200-400 Hand in Bobby\'s Room vs Viffer

You really think he calls the turn in 2 seconds with a pair and a flush draw? Wouldn't he take atleast a bit of time to consider a raise?
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: 100-200-400 Hand in Bobby\'s Room vs Viffer

Although.. the fact that he bet the river the same that you bet on the turn combined with your history seems like he's goading you a bit which leads me to think he's probably pretty big here..
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: 100-200-400 Hand in Bobby\'s Room vs Viffer

i would say something like "do you want me to raise is that why you bet that?" and then say "ok" and shove.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: 100-200-400 Hand in Bobby\'s Room vs Viffer

if you shove AK/AQ here for value I shove all day. But my image is a bith tigther...if you image is poor then it's obviously much riskier. Also, if this opponent is very strong (i have no idea who he is) then I can easily see him putting out a fake blocker, intending to call a raise. However, if your image is pretty solid (like you indicated it might be in the post) and he's playing pretty snugly (meaning he would have tried to get it in earlier in the hand with a set), I would shove. Him having an 8 here is very unlikely since you have clubs, and most hands with an 8 in it are clubs.

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Old 07-08-2007, 11:25 PM
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Default Re: 100-200-400 Hand in Bobby\'s Room vs Viffer

I folded. I wanted to shove or raise but got gun shy (didn't want to see him gloat about baiting me into that shove plus I think he still remembered me as being a lunatic from when we played in LA).

Thanks for the responses: it definitely seems like it could have gone either way.
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Old 07-09-2007, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: 100-200-400 Hand in Bobby\'s Room vs Viffer

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I folded. I wanted to shove or raise but got gun shy (didn't want to see him gloat about baiting me into that shove plus I think he still remembered me as being a lunatic from when we played in LA).

Thanks for the responses: it definitely seems like it could have gone either way.

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I assume he did not show?
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Old 07-09-2007, 02:15 AM
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Default Re: 100-200-400 Hand in Bobby\'s Room vs Viffer

I think you can raise here, I don't see him c/c a big ace to river and then deciding to value bet 8k.
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Old 07-09-2007, 05:42 AM
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Default Re: 100-200-400 Hand in Bobby\'s Room vs Viffer

I would just fold, viffers line almosts expect to induce a shove, and he knows it.
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Old 07-09-2007, 06:38 AM
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Default Re: 100-200-400 Hand in Bobby\'s Room vs Viffer

reminds me of a hand i played w. viffer at 2040 where there was like 600 in pot on flop of 789 two spades and everyone checked to him and he bet $150, I raised to 1k w. NFD, someone coldcalled he jammed I folded coldcaller calls w. J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] viffer shows JTo
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