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Old 06-04-2007, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: Do I have the nuts, or is is possible he has me beat?

I just call the river. I think you guys underestimate the times he has a FH. Yes, it is retarded for him to have any FH (with the possible exception of T7), but bad players slowplay all the time, don't be surprised by it.
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Old 06-04-2007, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: Do I have the nuts, or is is possible he has me beat?

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u guys dont think a flush will call my 4bet? seriously?

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How bad is villain? Only worst flushes (assuming villain is a 22/xx player) would be 89, J9 and maybe 56. J9 probably stacks off, but most sane players easily fold 56 and should be folding 89 to a shove.

Edit - Eliminate J9 because he would have flopped the straight.
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Old 06-04-2007, 01:56 PM
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u guys dont think a flush will call my 4bet? seriously?

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A flush will not 3 bet you on the river almost ever in my experience. People play non-nut flushes very passively in general, especially if the board is paired.
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Old 06-04-2007, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: Do I have the nuts, or is is possible he has me beat?

Can't imagine doing anything else besides calling this river.
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Old 06-04-2007, 01:58 PM
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if he plays a full house this bad (yeah exception T7s or something which makes sense) wouldnt he also play a flush bad too?
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Old 06-04-2007, 02:00 PM
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if he plays a full house this bad (yeah exception T7s or something which makes sense) wouldnt he also play a flush bad too?

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Big difference between playing overplaying a hand and underplaying one.
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Old 06-04-2007, 02:01 PM
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FWIW I dont think he has a set on the turn ever. A FH will almost always be a 2 pair on the turn, right?
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Old 06-04-2007, 02:34 PM
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i call but if it made it much more i'd probably fold
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Old 06-04-2007, 05:08 PM
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Okay, good discussion, I think we could have talked more about 4betting riv but meh.

results: I shoved the river and he snap called with T7s.
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Old 06-04-2007, 05:11 PM
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Okay, good discussion, I think we could have talked more about 4betting riv but meh.

results: I shoved the river and he snap called with T7s.

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Fine, I do the same cept most people say just call the river. I think T7 was the only hand that made sense for a boat and he just so happened to have it.
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