Some live players are scum

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Justin - It sounds like a lot of people don't like you.

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DELETED FOR MY STUPIDITY.

[McCutter]

Yeah, a lot of poker players are scum. Sometimes I am surprised by the lack of sportsmanship though. Didn't most people play organized sports growing up and learn sportsmanship? I mean, if you lose, take the beat, be solemn, be humble, say good game or good hand or whatever. But in casinos, I see guys throwing cards at dealers, telling their opponents how horrible they are, I see guys with missing teeth (they would rather gamble their money away than see a dentist), etc. I read recently that 95% of poker players lose money. So deep down, all these losers know they are losers. It's a dirty lowdown world, the poker casino. I like it.

[bernie]

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B) Get semi-confrontational and let them know they have pissed you off, yet avoid anything physical

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Eh, I wouldn't say Choice B is more satisfying. Do you ever feel good about yourself afterwards?

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Yes, I do.

One benefit is these scums won't ask you anymore. Some of them don't get what a simple 'no' means.

It's what I would expect from someone if I were constantly badgering them for money.

b

[JJNJustin]

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Justin - It sounds like a lot of people don't like you.

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You are right, alot of them dont like me, and I am tired of going out of my way to change that. If they dont like me, that is their right, but if they funnel their dislike into blatent malovolent behavior towards me, I feel this is unfair. I usually take a non-confrontational avoidance behavior, but lately I am finding myself less afraid and wanting to push back a little bit.

I guess in the poker world, you will have your friends who like you and defend you against others, and your enemies who despise you for whatever reason. I guess I have to learn to find humor or appreciate the fact that these people dont like me because they are losers. For example, if someone says, "You're a real axxhole," the correct line is, "Coming from you, that's a real compliment, I feel better about myself."

Like when guy number one asked me to borrow $20 for cigarettes, I was going to tell him, "Hey you're in luck, I saw some in the garbage can, why dont you stick your head in there and grab them." And when he said, "Dont ever talk to me again," I was going to say, "The next time you come ask for me for money you'll wish I had only just talked with you."

-J

[goodgrief]

They wouldn't like you any better if you were a stupid [censored] who gave away his money to everyone who asked, and they would respect you less. The guy who yelled at you when you wouldn't loan him money...it would be even worse if you had loaned him the money and become a regular target of this mentally disturbed person. Where would it end? It would still end in yelling, if not worse, but only after you'd lost however much money you were willing to lose to getting hit up by this person for cash time after time. Did you ever go camping? We were brought up on the story of the man who fed the bear a sandwich and after he ran out of sandwiches, then the grateful bear ate his arm.

[PokerEveryDay]

Unbelievable, you must be a poker trash magnet or something. I would have done EXACTLY the same thing you did in those scenario's. Don't change ANYTHING you are doing.

[otnemem]

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For example, if someone says, "You're a real axxhole," the correct line is, "Coming from you, that's a real compliment, I feel better about myself."

Like when guy number one asked me to borrow $20 for cigarettes, I was going to tell him, "Hey you're in luck, I saw some in the garbage can, why dont you stick your head in there and grab them." And when he said, "Dont ever talk to me again," I was going to say, "The next time you come ask for me for money you'll wish I had only just talked with you."

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You sound like the biggest tool on earth. I usually say that and I don't really mean it (maybe I say it too much).

[andyfox]

1) Loan him the $20. He'll avoid you like the plague from then on.

2) Men are jerks. We always refer to women as b*tches or c*nts, just usually not to their face.

Let the dealer concentrate on dealing, don't socialize except for right when he's sitting down with a "hello" and a smile.

3) Let Mattel worry about Ken and Barb.

4) Tell him you never loan money, not even to family. Expect damage to your poker table at a home game.

Poker players, like all people, can be jerks. Especially when they're stuck. That's where the phrase "hot and stuck" comes from.

[Ignignokt]

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I have run into many players who dislike me for one or more reasons

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Having become well acquainted with your body of work here on 2+2 over the years, I feel I have to say that I have absolutely no idea how this could possibly be.